Monday, June 30, 2008
Today's Blind Items - Classic Hollywood
So you have this A list singer and B list actor who for some reason had this very strong attraction to a waitress. They had a thing, but how he could even remember her, I have no clue. Anyway, it turns out the waitress ended up getting married to a cop. Our singer/actor ran into the waitress shortly after her marriage and wanted to be with her for a night. She told him she was married now and also told her husband the cop. The cop and the singer get into a big argument and the singer tells the cop he is going to get it. Two weeks later the cop is dead and our singer/actor goes back to the waitress the next day and says he wants to see her that night.
Sinatra?
ReplyDeletei'm thinking frank too
ReplyDeleteWhoever it is, please include this in the big Fourth of July reveals.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't surprise me if if was Frank.
MMM. Frank does sound plausible.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Sinatra win an Oscar for FROM HERE TO ETERNITY? Wouldn't that make him also A list as an actor?
ReplyDeleteI was thinking Elvis. Pre-Priscilla Elvis. Clambake/Jailhouse Rock Elvis.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Frank.
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ReplyDeletefrank...totally....if it was elvis...it would be after prisilla when he was all crazy and high on pills
ReplyDeleteDean Martin? He supposedly had connections to the Mafia.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Martin
Frank Sinatra was never less than A+ in ANY aspect! Has to be someone else...
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone like Dean Martin?
Inger-great minds think alike!
ReplyDeleteInger-great minds think alike!
ReplyDeleteOooo! I, too, was gonna say Frank .. but then I thought of Dino. I know they both had shady connections .. both were quite .. uh .. "amorous" when it came to the ladies .. but .. I prefer to think Dean wouldn't have someone whacked. So .. Frank.
ReplyDeleteI'll be different and say Bing Crosby.
ReplyDeletedef someone with mob ties....
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ReplyDeleteThe only thing that throws it off is the B list as an actor. As ice angel said, Frank was pretty much A in every category.
ReplyDeleteI'm liking the Bing guess, especially since I think Frank's acting Oscar would definitely make him A list but Ent's definitions.
ReplyDeleteWasn't Bing said to be violent with his family?
I was going to say Sinatra, but I like the Dean Martin guess even better.
ReplyDeleteFrank is the cat's meow in my book, but I'm not sure he'd be an A list actor. Ya, he won an Oscar, but that was pretty much a pity thing kinda like ET winning for Butterfield 8.
ReplyDeleteRing a ding ding and a scooby dooby doo, I think it's my guy, Frank.
my question is did the waitress see the singer/actor as requested? if so, cold-blooded!
ReplyDeleteActually, Frank was really good in FROM HERE TO ETERNITY.
ReplyDeleteBing did indeed have violent tendencies.
ReplyDeleteOH! EM! GEE! escandalo!!!
ReplyDeletewow, this is a good one!!
please ent, i must know, the meth addict, the hiv positive singer, & THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOBBY DARIN
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Darin
ReplyDeletemmmm let's put Sammy Davis in this quessing game too.
ReplyDeleteWell whoever it is, if he actually caused the death, I hope he rots in hell.
ReplyDeleteThis sounds like something from Old Vegas. Has to be one of the Rat Packers. Frank, Dino, Sammy Davis Jr. or Joey Bishop.
ReplyDeletePLEASE don't let it be Dean Martin!
ReplyDeletetotally elvis, you would not beleive the shit his crew covered up/fixed for him over the years.
ReplyDeleteIt's not Frank. He would totally have someone whacked but he also had his pick of the most desirable women in Hollywood and didn't need to tangle with a married waitress. This isn't Dino's style either as he was a fairly devoted family man who loved his kids. I'm liking the Elvis guess as I think cop is a clue and EP was obsessed with law enforcement. The Graceland Mafia was capable of a rub-out.
ReplyDeleteA list Singer & B list Actor
ReplyDeleteFrank was an A list singer and from what I have heard and seen he seen like a brat if he didn't things his way. Just like the Song says "I did it my Way".
Robert Goulet!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteNo, I don't think it's him, (AT ALL), but if we're going to list all the singer/actors of the baddda-bing zippidy-do variety, I wanted to toss a little Goulet action into the ring as well.
I think I followed the same line of thinking as everyone else:
Sinatra!
Dino!
Uh, who else was in the Rat Pack? Sammy?
Peanut Butter and Bacon Sandwiches? yeah, Col. Parker could've whacked someone...
huh...anyone else?
But Bing was A list all the way...
Uh...yeah...um...but, no...maybe...uh...
Robert Goulet!
So after that train of thought, I have arrived at James Darren.
Yup, James Darren. He's really Italian you know, so it could work.
Yes, James Darren: Moondoggie from the original Gidget movie. Teen idol who went from top of the town to doing "Match Game" on TV in 20 years or less. String of hit movies in the early 60s which petered out, probably in equal proportion to the decline of interest in his musical genre. he even did a gig on Star Trek: TNG, despite at times being part of the Rat Pack. Could you imagine Sinatra doing TNG in the 80s?
So, A list (at one time) singer, defo B list actor after the "decline". And I love James Darren, so that's a very begrudging guess on my part.
I wouldn't put it past any of them, so much so that I'm kinda *yawn* about it.
ReplyDeleteIt had to be one of the rat packers, and if I were to guess one of them, it would be Frank, sad to say.
ReplyDeleteA List Singer is definitely Dean and B List actor fits him really well. There is no way in hell Elvis, Bing or Frank is B list anything. Doesn't matter.
ReplyDeletesinatra received an oscar- so he can't be considered b list actor
ReplyDeleteAfter five minutes alone on my own limb, I think I'm going to retract James Darren and go with Dino after all. He had pretty slippery scruples when it came to women anyway, and the ample daily dosages of alcohol probably would only facilitate otherwise dubious behaviors.
ReplyDelete* Here's another vote for the Old Hollywood blinds to be in the Big Reveal! Who are you going to piss off if they're all dead!?!?!? ;p
kraymond, you might be on to something. Bobby Darrin was a real bastid, wasn't he?
ReplyDeleteThanks, Ayesha! Finally... someone's on board with me? ;)
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, a real mthrfker! I wouldn't put if past him for a second. You should read the book his own son wrote about him.
* Early on, at the Copacabana, he insisted that black comic Nipsey Russell be his opening act. This was a very hard sell in the era of nightclub segregation, but perhaps because Darin had set the attendance mark (eclipsing Frank Sinatra), his request was grudgingly granted by Jules Podell, the Frank Costello (mob boss) manager of the Copa.
ReplyDelete* Asking to be taken seriously, he took on more meaningful movie roles, and in 1962 he won the Golden Globe Award for "Most Promising Male Newcomer", for his role in Pressure Point. In 1963 he was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his role as a shell-shocked soldier in Captain Newman, M.D. At the Cannes Film Festival in France, where his records—in particular "Beyond the Sea"—brought him a wide following, he won the French Film Critics Award for Best Actor.
* Bobby Darin had a lifelong heart problem and crippling pain. He notoriously took a lot of pills & drank, hence the "They had a thing, but how he could even remember her, I have no clue." remark... by my guesstimate.
Actually, Dino drank far less than his image portrayed -- he also wasn't the lady killer that most of them were. It was an image thing.
ReplyDeleteI go with Sinatra -- he may have won an Oscar back in the day, but he was doing guest spots on Hawaii Five-0 before it was said and done. Also, I can see him having someone whacked. Wasn't he tight with Sam Giancano (sp?)?
Okay, Amy, Dino did supposedly drink apple juice half the time he was supposedly hitting the sauce, so I'll give you that, but his womanizing was well known. Maybe not as big of a dog as the rest of the 'pack, but he had already hooked up with wife #2 while married to wife #1, so I'll leave that one alone.
ReplyDeleteAw, heck. I guess I have to get off the Italian train altogether.
Now jumping on the Elvis train. Especially after seeing picture #2 here:
http://janetcharltonshollywood.com/gossip/elvis/elvis_in_his_prime_20080628.php
Personally, I'm on the Sinatra bandwagon, regardless of the Oscar. I think the "even remember her" refers to Sinatra and the numbers of women who reputedly threw themselves at him.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I discount Bobby Darin because of his relationship with Sandra Dee - even if he was a colossal dickweed, she never remarried after his death. That says something in my book.
flora:
ReplyDeleteAND your point about "not being able to piss off the dead" is a DAMN good point: Elvis is dead, but Priscilla is alive (I know. Don't let her face fool ya)and probably capable of using The King's money to sue anyone who'd call him a murderer or an accomplice to murder....
Elvis also had a "thing" for firearms: he shot up his own car once for not starting. (DeTomasso Pantera. Not the car from Kill Bill, the other DeTomasso. Pretty, but piece of shit cars..)
ReplyDeleteRagdoll- "Don't let her face fool ya"- good (and funny) point about Priscilla. And she's a Scientologist, so double whammy!
ReplyDeleteBut dang, they were divorced long before he OD'd!!!! Cut the strings already, damn!
Though- if the answer is NOT Elvis, the Old Hollywood = dead people still stands, so therefore => reveal! ;p
Yeah, I don't think there were any ties at the time of his death....I only mentioned his family because of the fortune, and I think Priscilla and Lisa Marie inherited ALL of it....and that would give them the "wherewithal" to sue, if someone flat out called him a killer or an accomplice.
ReplyDeleteIn relation to the other men mentioned---I don't how much money there is in, say, Dean-o's estate, or Sinatra's or Crosby's. And I don't know anything about their heirs at all. Elvis's heirs give me pause when it comes to thinking about "reveals" or thinking about why such an old item is even a blind at all: because he's the only one of these dudes whose family is as famous (I mean, nancy Sinatra had some songs and stuff, but the Presleys are more in the public eye, still...is what I meant by mentioning them...
this blind doesn't say the singer/actor actually caused the death. it says he threatened and then that "later the cop was dead," but i don't think that this can be fodder for a lawsuit.
ReplyDeleteFor all the Dean Martin guesses, I don't think he could be considered B list anything. Dean Martin was and is one of the only stars to have hits and be A list in EVERY facet of the entertainment industry, from radio to television to movies to screen to stage. And wasn't it HIS stage show in Las Vegas that eventually had all the rest of the guys on it, coining the term 'the rat pack' to begin with? (And lets not even start on his work with Jerry Lewis)
ReplyDeleteFrank was great and all, but Dean was A list EVERYTHING. He even notoriously topped the Beatles in the charts in the height of the british invasion.
(Sorry, I happened to just have watched a biography on Dino.)
Mia, I just watched the Dean biography, too. Very interesting program. I hope this isn't Dean - he seemed like too nice a person to do something like this.
ReplyDeleteI doubt it was Sammy and I also like to think Dino wouldn't do it, nor would he need to.
ReplyDeleteTherefore I'm going with Pat Boone!
I'm really hoping it's Frank "I moved to Vegas but forgot to pack my talent" Sinatra. Blech -- what a bloated windbag he ended up becoming!
ReplyDelete'gossip monger' - i hate you, let it be known!
ReplyDeleteyou bitch.
I dunno flora, James Darren is still alive ... He's also the godfather to Nancy Sinatra's daughter. It probably is Frank, though. Such a bully.
ReplyDeleteActually the term "Rat Pack" preceded Dean Martin. Bogie was the first leader, along with Lauren Bacall, Judy Garland, and her husband. Young Sinatra was hanging around them at the time and the group ended up evolving around him.
ReplyDeleteShakey- I rescinded my Moondoggie guess and went with Elvis "Peanut Butter and Bacon" Presley. His movies were pretty bad.
ReplyDeleteThough, it's probably someone we haven't even guessed.
Maybe I'll get in the "Pat Boone" car. It's a quirky guess, I like quirky.
Kraymond and Ayesha ~ I am totally on board with your Bobby Darin guess. He was the first person I thought of...he was very moody and had a quick temper. He pretty much stalked Sandra Dee until she agreed to go out with him. She had her own issues, and became emotionally dependent on him after their marriage, and he treated her really badly.
ReplyDeleteHe also was very screwed up after finding out that the woman he thought was his sister was actually his mother, and the woman he thought was his mother was really his grandmother.
Oooh ~ I hope this gets revealed next week.
peter lawford also roamed with the rat pack, he had connections all over the place.
ReplyDeletefrank is an obvious guess, but i like the bobby darren.
no way would it be sammy. rat pack or not, sammy was still a black man (and a jewish one, at that) back in the day. he never garnered the full respect he deserved. i really miss sammy!
Damn. I didn't realize that Bobby Darin and Jack Nickolson shared that in common.
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