Tuesday, September 04, 2007
Timmy Hint
As, I am going through all the comments to make them more manageable, I noticed that in at least the first 300 or so comments, that people are confusing the biography of Timmy and Shimmy. Yes, Timmy was born in the Northeast, but I never said where Shimmy claimed to be from. Shimmy can be from anywhere. I apologize if someone already addressed this issue in a later comment, but it kept popping up at least in the first set and wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page. Hopefully by sometime tonight I will have the comments and guesses reorganized to some extent.
This does make me wonder if 'Shimmy' could have pretended to hail from somwhere other than the USA? 'Shimmy could have come from anywhere'- another country?
ReplyDeleteI'm not on any one guess in particular-but KK was a favourite guess throughout. And the English accent isn't too difficult to fake, especially for an actress (look at Renee Zelwegger and Gwynneth Paltrow. Plus the American accent was a lot more clipped back then too, so the difference may have been less noticable.
Just thinking aloud again...
I did mention that the northwest could have been the northwest of England, or even Asia, and I want to just be very adult about that fact, so all I'm going to say is neener neener neener!
ReplyDeleteEnt, I could see setting up a thread for each guess on the message board so that people could check up on all the previous info posted for a given candidate. But it won't help much--too many people won't bother to read them and will just keep bringing up the same stuff that's been dealt with before.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I hope you don't mean that those guess threads would REPLACE the comments threads after your updates. Most of the fun of participating in this was the real-time back and forth with the whole group. Also, some of the most interesting posts discussed multiple guesses. How would you divide those up?
I think you should just give us regular tips so that we start a new thread every day. A good example is that Shimmy/Timmy confusion you mentioned. That was resolved after your update on Friday. It just took a while for everyone to notice it.
Been working on this myself since it started but finally logging in. Its got to be Kay Kendall or Alice Brady if you just base it on people whose careers ended within a few years of their award.
ReplyDeleteTwisted, I bow before you...and y'know, Lithunia is in the NORTHEASTERN part of Europe.
ReplyDeleteDisclaimer: I don't actually believe Shimmy is Cornell Borchers, I'm just trying to stir things up a bit.
Oops, I meant LithuANia. I keep mispelling that name, but you know what I mean.
ReplyDeleteTwisted Sister- hehe!! Sorry meant to clarify in my comment that the whole 'Shimmy coming from somewhere else' was a theory that had already been discussed-and that we'd been vindicated (perhaps??) ;) Didn't mean to seem like I was stealing your thunder!
ReplyDeleteKay Kendall rises from the dead end clues department.
ReplyDeleteAnd hey, so does that German actress. I already forgot her name lol.
Hi all - been tied up all day, but I'm back for more brain damage =)
this has been absolutley fun in real time and I would just love to know all of you! We make a great research team! I can't wait to see what the correct guess will be. For the work we have all done everyone should get an Oscar, I think.
ReplyDeleteSo... if someone/s on this blog has guessed Timmy's identity: which identity was it? He-Timmy or She-Timmy? Assuming (since other sites also guessed/posted it) it is the She-Timmy identity... how about some hints as to He-Timmy. Has he been guessed as well? Or is he just too obscure even for us?
ReplyDeleteRight on, blind guy! I have to admit I'm dubious that I'll even believe Ent's answer when it's finally revealed. (Like sleuth, I'm an Occam's razor fan.) But it's been loads of fun, and I feel as if I've made a whole bunch of new friends.
ReplyDeleteBut what could follow this? The current-day BIs just can't compare with old Hollywood--Brit et al are rank amateurs, imho.
Ent, I hope you pump JJ for lots more stories before his memory gets any worse.
Oh my goodness, this is funny, it's a clip of Judy Holliday appearing on 'What's My Line?' in 1957.
ReplyDeleteGo to 2:25 (or thereabouts) and listen carefully to what the person who's guessing says (after guessing wrongly that Judy Holliday is a blonde who wears "abbreviated costumes"):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvcdtKNRgt8&NR=1
I nearly fell off my chair when I heard that!!! Ironic, doesn't even cover it....
Harpo068: Seems like I spend half my time seconding your posts.
ReplyDeleteBut it would be great to see a "classic Hollywood" BI every week or so.
gillian: That's because great minds think alike. *grin*
ReplyDeleteJC, that is sooo funny!!
ReplyDeleteThere is no way Judy Holliday was a man. Nope.
I can't believe how young Robert Preston looks!! He was a hottie.
No, I don't think it was her at all, but I just couldn't believe it: she couldn't have chosen a better thing to say in light of all the speculation over the last few days ;)
ReplyDeleteI would be very surprised if it was Kay Kendall. There is a biography of her, The Brief, Madcap Life of Kay Kendall, by Eve Golden, and there is a leukemia prgram fund named after her in England.
ReplyDeleteI agree with harpo. Utilize the message board. Just make it known that you're going to do so. Make a separate forum for "Timmy/Shimmy" and have a separate thread for each popular guess.
ReplyDeleteThe Brief, Madcap Life of Kay Kendall was written with the cooperation of Kendall’s sister Kim and includes interviews with many of her costars, relatives and friends. A complete filmography and numerous rare photographs complete this first-ever biography of Britain’s most glamorous comic star.
ReplyDeleteKenny Baker's work profile matches the timeline. Probably not right but can't get over the similarities in these 2 pics of Kenny and Kay from Getty images:
ReplyDeleteKenny Baker page:last photo#3285667
Kay Kendall page: 5th row, 2nd from left:
Jan 1953 #3293766 .
Just sayin...
I think the leukemia fund fits in well with KK being Timmy. I mean if you're going to pull the wool over everyone's eyes with such a dramatic death, you'd want to be sorting your karma out by setting up some sort of charity or fund to make up for it.
ReplyDeleteIt has to be either Kay Kendall or Alice Brady.
It's Kay Kendall. JJ is A.C. Lyles (who I met 2 summers ago, he invited me and my husband into his office showed us the many pictures he's taken with stars and his antique camera--which was used to film the first Western on Paramount) and the closeted actor is Rex Harrison--despite his six "Hollywood" marriages, he was a well-known homosexual and never really married except for show. (For example, Christopher Plummer has been married 3 times and Anthony Hopkins has been married and both men are gay.) Kay Kendall stopped working after winning for 'Les Girls"--the 2 movies posted on her imdb page completed production prior or close to awards season. She looks very feminine but if you look EXTREMELY closely, you can tell she is a man who had a nose job. Alice Brady never acted with an A-lister (Carlos was not an A-lister) and she made many movies after her win. The great enigma to this blind however is who is Cavan Kendall? Certainly he isn't Timmy because he's done TV work. But--who is he and how is he connected to Timmy?
ReplyDeleteI think when EL says the A lister never married, it means he never married.
ReplyDeleteAnd I don't know who Carlos is, but Alice Brady acted in Metropolitan with Cesar Romero who WAS a never married, closeted A-lister.
Does the re line of this mean there is a hint? Maybe the answer is in the first 300 posts.
ReplyDeleteI can see the KK/Kenny Baker thing... There are definitely similarities. Has anyone found pictures of Baker other than the one below?
ReplyDeletehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/0/03/20070513015813!KennyBakerStageDoorCanteen.jpg
http://www.britmovie.co.uk/actors/k/006.html
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ReplyDeletePhoto of Kay Kendall
ReplyDeletehttp://www.britishpictures.com/photos/photo075.htm
If you've seen KK playing the trumpet from Genevieve on You Tube...
ReplyDeleteStill, Shirley Booth fit in many ways.
If JJ is AC Lyles, he was married briefly to Martha Vickers. Yum. What she must have known. Now, how to find her "roommates". (If this was the wife.
ReplyDeleteLovely, auburn-haired Martha Vickers (nee Martha MacVicar) was born in Ann Arbor, Michigan, on May 28, 1925, the daughter of James S. and Frances MacVicar. After attending schools in various states - Florida, Texas and California - she and her family settled on the West Coast. A raving beauty, she broke into the entertainment field as a model for still photographer William Mortenson. This attracted the interest of David O. Selznick and she signed a starlet contract with him, but nothing came of it. Universal took over her contract where she was groomed in inauspicious bit parts such as her corpse/victim in Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943), and in such low-level entries as Captive Wild Woman (1943) and The Mummy's Ghost (1944). In between assignments, Martha earned WWII pin-up exposure in such magazines as "Yank: The Army Weekly."
RKO gave her some higher-level billing chances with Marine Raiders (1944) and The Falcon in Mexico (1944), but it was Warner Bros. that put her officially on the map. The enticing Martha earned celebrity status and a new stage moniker when she generated some real heat as Lauren Bacall's wild, thumb-sucking sister Carmen in the film noir classic The Big Sleep (1946), which also starred Humphrey Bogart, playing the teenage nymphet "bad girl" for all it was worth. This major success quickly led to other "B" roles and not necessarily all "bad girl" parts. Highly appealing as the second femme lead in the pleasant musical The Time, the Place and the Girl (1946), Martha looked radiant but was overlooked for bigger things. She continued on and disrupted the proceedings again in the atmospheric film noir The Man I Love (1947) with Ida Lupino and finally earned leading lady status in That Way with Women (1947) opposite Dane Clark.
Very much a part of the Hollywood dating scene, which included actor James Stewart and director Frederick De Cordova, Martha finally married producer A.C. Lyles in March of 1948, but the marriage was over within a couple of months.
missanon: I found more video of Baker (other than youtube) here which is HIGHLY incriminating
ReplyDeletehttp://www.efootage.com/view_clip.php?clip_id=10931
apparently, Kenny Baker worked for some radio show early in his career and the host used to poke fun of him... as in "gay jokes" and Kenny Baker would reply "what? don't you think I like girls?" and the host would always reply, "well your voice IS really HIGH you know"
plus, he disappeared after his gig to go east and no one heard of him again. theres so many threads i found of him today where people ask "What ever happened to Kenny Baker?" and no one knows.
also, if you do a search on gettyimages for kenny baker, there's TWO more photographs at the very end. AND if you do a search for Kenny Baker on AltaVista, there's a few more.
It can't be Kay Kendall.
ReplyDeleteKay Kendall starred in British movies as early as 1946. These are existing movies, with her name in the credits. It would mean that Timmy, in order to perfect his alibi, moved to England, started a carrier there as a woman nearly a decade before moving back to the US. Now, that's something that means dedication to his craft...
If I limit myself to Oscar winners, there are few people that match the description.
You can definitely exclude anybody who's featured on imdb in a movie that took place more than three or four years after her win. She didn't necessarily died but anybody who appeared in a "Love Boat" episode decades after her Award must be excluded (which concerns Luise Rainer)
Please stop anyway with your British actresses, as, even if they are not famous in the US, they had gained some fame in the UK for their stage or film work. Margaret Rutherford was definitely a star in the UK as the film Miss Marple in several Agatha Christie adpatations.
very good sleuth, but I think JJ could be Mickey Rooney, who was also married to Martha Vickers. Although he's only 89, but I could certainly see him as being one to regale stories from his past over lunch! In addition, Rooney's real name is Joe, Jr - hence, JJ, wouldn't you think?
ReplyDeletenow on to other research...
Angela wrote:
ReplyDelete"Please stop anyway with your British actresses, as, even if they are not famous in the US, they had gained some fame in the UK for their stage or film work."
Angela, if you'll look at the imdb page for Kay Kendall you'll see that all of the films listed in the early years say "Uncredited". If you click on the movie itself and look for Kay's name, you'll find the words 'bit part'. This sounds exactly like a person starting over and breaking into film - the way Timmy did when he decided to break into movies as a woman.
I know you may not think it's KK, but telling others to stop suggesting her seems unnecessary, no?
I'm resting on Kay Kendall, though I still haven't spotted the confirming scar. Not so sure about Kenny Baker, though--there's a bit of overlap, according to imdb. Still, it struck me that they have exactly the same dimples in these two photographs:
ReplyDeleteKay Smile
Kenny Smile
The nose is completely different, though, don't you think, Myrlin?
ReplyDeleteIf and when Ent reveals he better not just give us Timmy's name.
ReplyDeletets: according to Wiki:Kendall's distinctive nose, an aristocratic swoop, was the result of plastic surgery after a car crash. As she told Bogarde, the surgeon had only two noses in his repertoire, "this one and the other one." The one she chose, Kendall explained, made it difficult to photograph her in profile.
ReplyDeleteJust for clarification, the "sleuth" who posted re Kay Kendall a few posts back is not me, the "sleuth" who has been posting re the defects in the clue and McCambridge. I don't think it's Kay Kendall!
ReplyDeleteAt this point, I just want to know who it is already!
I think we are wrong to only consider actresses that had a film career, fell off the map shortly after their win....and then never returned.
ReplyDeleteENT never says they NEVER returned to being the woman persona. Maybe some appearances here and there when older?
One thing I find striking and annoying in those Getty images of Kay: her face from 1945 and the one in 1957 are completely different! Why would anybody think that was the same girl?
ReplyDeleteHer nose job (after the accident) made her 100% more attractive, I think.
Another thing that makes little sense: Kenny Baker was born in 1912.
ReplyDeleteBy 1958 (Kay's big year) he would have been 46.
Nope, not buying it.
Myrlin, if you look at their mouths they have a different lip shape. kay has a definite dip in her upper lip and kenny doesn't. i agree with the above comment that the noses are off as well, but that cold have been changed with surgery. the lips would have been much harder to change.
ReplyDeleteDanny Kaye?
ReplyDeleteConnected with
MOSS HART
MISS LIBERTY
THE LIFE AND TIMES
Credited with giving Kaye his “broadway break”
White Christmas continuity goof includes Atcheston Topeka
Died of contaminated blood transfusion
DANNY KAYE ON YOUTUBE DISNEY 25TH ANNIVERSARY Golden Horseshoe
Sunset boulevard location of original Paramount studio barn where he made movie
I have seen lips made to look entirely different (i.e. fuller) looking just by applying makeup. I do not understand, however, how Kenny Baker could have gone back to being Kenny Baker after the Kay Kendall nose job... That is what has me stumped.
ReplyDeleteAlso, if a surgical proceedure (like a nose job) was performed, wouldn't more people know about the deception?
You're not actually serious about Danny Kaye, are you?
ReplyDeleteHe was a star named Danny Kaye. He could not have disappeared for a few years, gotten an Oscar as a woman, and then returned to being Danny Kaye.
I want it to be KK or Judy just for the sheer dramatic fabulousness of it but I keep finding myself on the Jospehine Hull train.
ReplyDeleteI love these old hollywood BI. Keep 'em coming Ent. It was a fun way to spend the long weekend and I'm impressed with how well everyone worked together. There were virtually no trolls.
I'm with blindguy, it'd be fun to know you all in real life. Just imagine all the mysteries and crimes we could solve!
It would be fun to know everyone in real life. Anyone in SC? We can go out for drinks after the grand reveal! :)
ReplyDeleteWe need someone who's a member of Actors Equity and can get access to a complete membership list within the time frame. EL says Timmy worked on the stage after the ending of his career as a female. To do that he would have had to have been a member of Equity. We need someone who can check the obits of male Equity members between 1980 and 1985.
ReplyDeleteAlthough, I still see a roadblock. There's Timmy as a man in his first try at Hollywood, Timmy as a woman and then Timmy as a man again, post-Hollywood. Did Timmy live these two distinct periods of his life with the same name or with two different identities?
Still, access to membership lists such as Equity and the Screen Actors Guild could help.
A tip of my proverbial hat to all those who are spending the time researching this.
Apparently my computer eats my posts. Again, googling Martha Vickers, the first page of the results returns:
ReplyDeleteThe Official Website of Martha Vickers Movies
Martha Vickers - The Private Life and Times of Martha Vickers. Martha Vickers Pictures. Martha Vickers (Martha MacVicar); Glamour Girls of the Silver Screen ...
www.glamourgirlsofthesilverscreen.com/show.php?id=278 - 28k -
hmm. Life and Times. That was in the text of the clue, yes?
Maybe Budford meant Danny Kaye for the closeted A-Lister?
ReplyDeleteDanny Kaye has gaps including a six year gap. On the youtube he plays both female and male characters. He's got a funky marriage and a reported long term gay affair. His first break could have been as the understudy in the writer's first play.
ReplyDeleteahhhhhhhhhh this is driving me nutso! lol
ReplyDeletemore hints pls.
i'm intrigued by Kenny Baker tho
how about Barbara Stanwych or maybe
ReplyDelete(Eve Arden) if U read their Bio's they could possible fit, EL maybe misleading in some of his clues.(I bet Grant Williams has a part in this 2) ... and don't forget Ruth Gordon and Helen Hayes just Guessing ??????
Sorry if this has been pointed out before (too many threads!), and I have no idea of its significance, but the still of the car in the first BI post is definitely from Sunset Blvd.
ReplyDeleteI found the same photo on a site comparing the images in David Lynch's Mulholland Drive to those in Sunset Blvd.
http://khaokal.netslums.com/nicomi/random/mdvs/
William Holden was married from 1941-71, which would seem to let him out as the closeted A lister, and the photo itself might be random (or a clue to JJ's identity, since AC has worked at Paramount for years), but if no one has positively ID'd it yet, we have now.
"Yes, Timmy was born in the Northeast, but I never said where Shimmy claimed to be from. Shimmy can be from anywher"
ReplyDeleteOk, this just makes me mad. I come back from a long day to find this worthless "Hint"?
It was really low to title this "Timmy Hint" It should've been titled "Timmy Duh-Now"
;)
Sorry to put you all down...
ReplyDeleteDanny Kaye, Ruth Gordon, Helen Hayes, Barbara Stanwyck! Eve Arden, ALL had long careers under those names.
Timmy isn't any of them -- as a woman, his film career ENDED long before he died. And EL says he didn't make any more films as a woman, either.
Can you tell I'm frustrated? We've come down to naming tragic cancer victims as not being cancer victims at all, but secret transvestites.
Arggh.
This is from The Oakland Tribune, September 8, 1959 :
ReplyDelete"London, Sept. 8---Actress Kay Kendall who died Sunday of leukemia after a long illness, will have a private funeral, it was announced today. A press statement from her agent said the only persons present would be her husband, actor Rex Harrison, and their relatives. The agent declined to give the date."
Where does EL say that the actor disappears? It's the actress that disappears. Hell six years? What was he doing for six years?
ReplyDeletesupposedly linked to laurence olivier
Advertisement (with photo of Kay and Rex) from Feb. 18, 1960 issue of The Oakland Tribune:
ReplyDelete"When they married in June of 1957, Rex Harrison knew Kay Kendall was dying. He had known for weeks. From that moment on he gave what was perhaps the finest acting performance of his life. The plot? To keep Kay from knowing what he knew. Why should this suave, sophisticated actor---a man nicknamed 'Sexy Rexy' by the press and better known for love affairs than lasting marriages---have married a woman he knew had only a short time to live? Why did he decide not to tell her of her fate? What kind of life did they have together during those last two years? Is it possible that Kay, a fine actress herself, knew all along that she had only a short time to live? You'll find fascinating answers to these questions in 'THE SECRET KAY KENDALL AND REX HARRISON NEVER SHARED' in the March issue of Good Housekeeping magazine. You won't want to miss this tender, intimate account of the most unusual and moving love story of our times. Pick up your copy of March Good Housekeeping today!"
Something that's haunting me are the words from the original BI about "one role and one award" as the "subject of the blind." One role, one award. "The Life and Times of Timmy." I think in there somewhere is the answer.
ReplyDeleteMaybe what we need to know are the names of the character that won Shimmy her "big award." Ent is very emphatic about it being about the specific role she won for, not the other, earlier ones.
"Timmy considered trying to resume a film career as a man but the skin condition made that impossible because it would have been one hell of a coincidence that two people who looked remarkably alike had the same condition. What he could do though was return to the theatre, and he did so, as a man and worked as a man until his death from AIDS related complications."
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but this person isn't Danny Kaye, who had a television show for years (as a man) and appeared in many movies. I have a television appearance which he made in the early 80s -- his wife's PBS show about musical comedies.
I was reading another site and came across this:
ReplyDeleteAccording to the coffee table book The Power Of Glamour, Carol Lombard stopped Fredrich March's sexual advances on the set of Nothing Sacred by inviting him into her dressing room for a drink and allowing him to rub his hand up her thigh where she had strapped on a dildo.
I thought, hmmm, maybe it wasn't a dildo afterall!
And then I thught I'd read up on Carole Lombard knowing nothing about her and this caught my eye on IMDB:
In 1926 Carole was seriously injured in an automobile accident that resulted in the left side of her face being scarred.
Hmmm, really?
Then I went to getty images and if you look at picture 3205243 of her and William Powell in 'My Man Godfrey' you can clearly see the scar on the left side of her face.
http://www.gettyimages.com/search/search.aspx
Was Carole one of the original guesses?
She had a very active movie career, a nomination but no win, and then died in a plane crash. Looking now to see if there's a closeted A list connection.
According to current reports, that person could have been Clark Gable.
ReplyDeleteI mentioned Carole's famous scar on the other thread. No takers.
I don't think it's very likely, but I do think the only way we're going to find Timmy is when we find the matching scar.
Carole Lombard is another one who fits many clues (the scar, tragic early death in a plane crash...).
ReplyDeleteBut although she was nominated for an AA for My Man Godfrey, she lost to Luise Rainer.
Sorry david I must have missed your post about the car in the other thread.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's likely either but the dildo incident plus the visible scar and then the gone forever in a plane crash thing make for an interesting theory.
Glad it's not Cornell. That would have bummed me out.
Gable was DEVASTATED when Carole died. He basically drank for a solid year before he went and enlisted. It was apparently horrible, and he enlisted because he didn't care if he died...
ReplyDeleteThere are reports he went crazy when he was told the plane went down, and went up there himself to see the crash. He had to see what was left of her body for himself, crazed with grief.
ReplyDeleteHe supposedly never got over her.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this before, (I have read it all, but it all goes together after a while) but could it be someone on a cover of Life or Time Magazine?
ReplyDeleteI know that wouldn't narrow it down much!
ReplyDeleteOh don't even go there. (It probably would have been Life.)
ReplyDeleteDid Life or Time give out awards back then?
ReplyDeleteDon't think so.
ReplyDeleteI did find my favorite guess, Gloria Grahame (I know, she worked in TV for years) on the cover in 1946.
Take a look to see if your favorite ever made the cover:
http://www.life.com/Life/cover_search/
(Conveniently, the cover archive goes back to 1936!)
Has anyone considered that the "scar" could be code for the "nose job?" Kay Kendall's nose job is pretty obvious, after all.
ReplyDeleteI must admit, I find this all extremely fascinating. Not just the BI story, but the postings and research and theories and connections and just how quickly so many got involved in the postings, some admittedly for the first time. What a story! Anyone want to think about writing the script for all this?
ReplyDeleteas for guesses, I'm leaning towards the Judy Holliday, Kay Kendall possibilities.
As for Kenny Baker, even though I brought his name up earlier this weekend, there are probably many names that could fit the disenchanted soul who goes back to the stage after trying his luck in Hollywood, it's just finding the right situations, timeline, etc.
Again, EL as many have said, good BI that has grabbed us on many levels!!!
So, if it's Kay Kendall, whose body did they use to forge the death certificate that was registered in the England death indexes?
ReplyDeleteKay's actual birth name was Justine. A death was registered for Kay J Harrison in 1959, aged 32 in London, recorded in the correct quarter for September 6.
Kay Kendall is billed fourth in "London Town" from 1946. It was a big production also starring Petula Clark. It flopped, so Kendall went back to a certain obscurity. But she's also featured in "Dance Hall" from 1950.
ReplyDeleteBoth these films still exist, are reviewed on the imdb and broadcast on British TV. And it was long ago "Les Girls"... Sorry to disappoint you but an award winning actress is sometimes really a woman... Kay Kendall had a carrier in Albion.
My best guess:
ReplyDeleteShimmy: Thelma Ritter.
Closted A-list, never married: Clifton Webb.
Hollywood Legends pic: includes Hitchcock, who directed Ritter in Rear Window.
Shimmy's disappearance and end: After winning the Tony, her films declined. She was cremated.
Maybe the pic of the car, reportedly from Sunset Blvd., was used again (exteriors often were in Hollywood). I'll have to watch the Thelma Ritter opus to find out.
The other pics: Maybe he/she's there somewhere.
My best guess for Timmy is Kenny Baker, although Kenny's career seems to be more successful than Timmy's is described as having been. But Kenny never got a juicy part, as Thelma did.
My best guess for JJ: Mickey Rooney. All those wives! One of them was certain to have roomed with Shimmy. If only we could linke Martha Vickers with Thelma Ritter!
But Thelma Ritter had a 20 year career. Doubt it is her. I like the Mickey Rooney guess as I know he got around and has plenty of stories.
ReplyDeleteKenny Baker was born in Monrovia, California, which is obviously not the northeast! Rats, there goes my theory.(Judy Holliday/Kenny Baker).
ReplyDeleteI think it's best to try to eliminate or include by matching the clues including the pictures. My guesses might not be the best, but I have tried to connect them to the clues.
ReplyDeleteHey guys, I just had a thought, and PLEASE forgive me if someone else has already mentioned this and I just didn't see it in the posts. Remember that Vanity Fair/Annie Liebowitz pictorial of "Killers Kill and Dead Men Die" that Ent posted a few weeks back? I was trying to figure out the significance of the post (other than the amazing pictures), because it was a March 2007 issue, but he posted it in August.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I found the issue and I was reading the article again, and it suddenly occurred to me that maybe Timmy/Shimmy is one of the Old Hollywood actors mentioned in the article who "worked" on the picture back in the day.
This could be totally way off, but I can't find the post now, and I thought I would throw this idea in the mix. The actors/actresses mentioned in the 40s as they appear in the story are the following:
Humphrey Bogart
Robert Mitchum
Sterling Hayden
Glenn Ford
Peter Lorre
Sydney Greenstreet
Lauren Bacall
Barbara Stanwyck
Joan Crawford
Richard Widmark
Gene Tierney
Lee Marvin
Gloria Grahame
Ida Lupino
Jimmy Stewart
Obviously there are several we can cross off right away, but weren't there rumblings about Gloria Grahame or Ida Lupino in the comments? Forgive me if this sounds really stupid, I just thought it might be like Ent to randomly throw this article/post in there and not give a reason as to why.
Miyushi Omeki-Hood has died.
ReplyDeleteShe passed on 10 July but it was apparently just announced.
http://www.houstonherald.com
hmmm, Angie.....I'm going back to read that post again....Gloria Grahame was in the running until we found that she did a horror movie about a haunted bordello (no joke) the same year she died (1981)
ReplyDeleteIda Lupino died in 1995.
ReplyDeleteAlso, there's no way in hell it's Bacall or Stanwyck.
my guess is Margaret Hamilton (Miss Gulch/Wicked Witch (Wiz of Oz). The A list closeted actor -James Cagney.
ReplyDeleteJR, the only award Hamilton won was from the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Films. Not big or televised.
ReplyDeleteI think a fair guess for female Timmy (Shimmy) could be Fay Bainter and the closeted leading man Danny Kaye. They played husband and wife in "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty". Still struggling for a viable guess on Timmy
ReplyDelete