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That's an expensive bottle of booze.
Diana was not murdered by the army
She died in a car accident because the driver was drunk and drove too fast in a difficult tunnel (go in Paris ,see the tunnel,it's dangerous when you drive too fast)
The government could have wanted her dead because she was becoming a loose canon and getting too close to Dodi Al-Fayed. There were rumours she could have been pregnant. Embarrassing for the British Monarchy to have arabic children
Can the poor woman rest in peace? She died in a crash. Why does there always have to be something more sinister? Drunk driver pursued by paparazzi and crashed. Two children left motherless. That is tragedy enough.
And maybe they didn't need to spend any more because the facts were all there.
The Monarchy wouldn't have 'Arabic' children because she was divorced then.
I think I remember it all sounding suspicious. The driver was not their usual driver he was replaced last minute and there was discrepancies with the alcohol report like maybe he was druged cause witnesses said he only had like one beer. Some believed the breaks and gas pedal was messed with as well.
Her death really affected me for some reason. It is kind of strange cause I was really young when it happened and never payed much attention to her before. Then reading funny/sad stories about her daily life gave her a real human quality that made her seem like a lost angel or something
Diana was always an icon i looked up to. Such a selfless, gracious, graceful example of a human being. Even with her struggles it was something that even my flawed self could relate to. It's nice to see her children honor her tradition with their causes. If there us any truth to the rumors i hope it does come out. So sad either way. I hope Kate picks up her torch.
Putting my tin-foil hat on for a moment. There's no way in hell the Church of England would want the mother of possible future heads of the church to marry a Muslim and possibly have more kids with him. Does that mean the Queen sat on her throne petting a corgi like a Bond villain and ordered a hit? No. Though it doesn't mean someone high up in the church didn't either. Tin-foil hat off!
One of the world's most famous people dies in a terrible accident and people don't wanna face that. That said though there are a couple of fishy things about it, though if there wasn't then it would be a conspiracy theory, would it?
"We have people walking around who think the government stages these terrorist attacks. And anybody with a brain bigger than a walnut knows that our government is not nearly competent enough to stage a terrorist attack and then keep it a secret because, as we know, in this day and age you cannot keep a secret."
Steven Soderbergh, a few months ago
@Angela, LOL! I've always thought the same thing about the supposed Kennedy assassination and faked moon landing conspiracy theories.
If it was a complex and clever set-up, someone would want to take credit for it! Americans, in particular, love to take credit for things. Look at the great fake moon landing I helped set up!
Look at 'Deep Throat', the ultra-secret source for the Woodward and Bernstein Watergate stories. He came out and made sure everyone knew who he was before he kicked the bucket.
And that was just one guy. The more people involved, the more likely someone's going to want to get famous by talking.
I wouldn't be surprised if she was murdered, but then again, I do love a good conspiracy theory.
Her death affected me, too. Maybe because she was such a prominent figure when I was a child in the 80s. Losing Princess Diana, Michael Jackson & President Reagan was like losing a part of my childhood. I don't know how else to explain it.
@Fran, would also like to point out that Diana's previous boyfriend, Hasnat Khan, was also a Muslim, and she was a lot more serious about him. (Dodi had only been around for a couple of months).
If they were going to knock her off, why didn't they knock her off when she was bonking Hasnat Khan for a couple of years?
Not that I'd want my kid marrying Dodi, either. The guy was a bum with no clear skills or employment.
Khan was a heart surgeon, much better marriage material.
You don't know why the army would want her dead? Because the Royal Family didn't want her gettin' married to what to them was a stinkin' Arab. They saw her actions as bringing even more shame on the Royals. Simple as that.
Hitchens summed Diana up best: a professional hysteric.
I dislike the royals. Diana is 'iconic' and maybe was a little less evil than the others but she knew what she was marrying into. Noone has enough money for me to allow them to control me.
..just imagine: now William (2nd heir to the British throne) could have had a half Arabic stepbrother. Especially in times, when the brits allied w/ americans for the oil in the far east..? hm.. really, no reason to assassin Diana...
I somewhat believe it. I mean, if it's true I wouldn't be surprised. If not I won't be either. All of this is just making me wonder what was so appealing about the arab guys for Diana? I wonder if it was the taboo of it all or if theyre just awesome or both.
They couldn't have the mother of the future king married to a Muslim. Just like they couldn't have a Catholic as the mother to an heir to the throne, so the Jack the Ripper killings cleansed England of the whores who knew. Read The Ripper and the Royals. Fucking Randolph Churchill and the Freemasons.
What did she know about Charles that could make us think less of him than we already do ?
Diana was killed by the laws of physics. Full stop.
There is no need to assassinate someone being driven by a drunk at high speeds with no seat belt on. It's akin to firing someone who's just quit -- your work is already done.
Most of the conspiracies are just a smokescreen put up by Mohammad al Fayed. I think he was/is a loving father who has grieved tremendously. But it was HIS driver in one of HIS cars. I'm sure he's tortured with guilt about the role he played and of course it's not his fault, but you can see how he would blame himself. So the next best outlet is finding every potential explanation -- no matter how implausible.
[Side note: That RIDICULOUS statue in Harrod's has been good for business. Hell, I've seen it twice. I made sure to show Mr. Nom when I went back a few years later. No, seriously, it is re. dick. you. luss. Pictures online don't do it justice. It is to statuary what a soft-focus pic of a woman in a field of wildflowers is to feminine hygiene products.]
And, no, neither the British government nor the royal family would have any need to kill Diana off for getting married to and having kids with a Muslim guy. For starters, she already produced two heirs. So what if she might give them some tan half-siblings who don't go to their church. Awkward? Embarrassing? Please. Just throw it on the pile with all the other dramas they survived with her. She blew the lid on a 20-year affair between Camilla and Charles. Hell, Harry might not even be Charles's son -- now THAT'S awkward.
And Tony Blair was PM at the time, a man who could not have cared less about Diana's sexual escapades.
So who's supposedly carrying out this hit? Some racist shitbag with too much time on his hands, no accountability and the world's best/worst luck (Aww, man, that tunnel beat me to it!)? And it took 16 years for a loudmouth to let the cat out of the bag?
No. It doesn't make sense. None of it makes sense. You know what does make sense? Massive internal bleeding resulting from your organs slamming against your rib cage at 80 MPH. Ask a doctor what happens to an aorta at that speed. It's a wonder she was still alive when medics arrived.
Diana was killed because she was becoming more famous than the monarchy..she was a world figure/leader who was destined to be a dominant force in many ways...there were many groups that saw her as a threat I am sure. She created empathy and compassion for some causes that world leaders wanted quiet. I loved her dearly.
Follow the white rabbit.
I wouldn't put it past the Royal Family.
There were rumors she and Dodi were going to expose a pedophile ring in England which involved the Royal Family.
Professional driver hit a pillar in Paris??? Never!!! His family wiuld die of shame...Those are the best drivers in the world... it was insulting also that supposedly it was a motorcycle that caused him to lose control...whatever.... Parisians aim for motorcyclists who know better than to try out the tunnels like that late at night. Alcohol content means nothing when you've been drinking alcohol with dinner your whole life...only westerners have bought this lie.
Its naive to think governments cant plan terrorists attacks. Look at our own American history with the freedom of information act for unclassified documents. The Gulf of Tonkin was a planned CIA attack so we could go into Vietnam war. Operation Northwoods while not signed off on from JFK was introduced to him and if you read the proposal it is eerily like 911. The US also lied about the Lusitania boat of passengers in 1915 that supposedly held more than 1200 american citizens and children that Germans sank during world war 1, but new evidence from sub footage show it was a war ship carrying supplies and not children or other american citizens other than military personal would have been on the ship. The only reason we joined the war was because it got the public outraged over losing those innocent citizens.
How about the London bombings? did you know an official Scottland yard even released statment to the public that confirmed there was indeed Military exerices on terrorists bombing public transportation.!?? You can check out more information on mock attacks at:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/7-7-mock-terror-drill-what-relationship-to-the-real-time-terror-attacks/821
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Applause @ NomNom!
CJ, can you please elaborate? Never heard of this. It is interesting...
Yup - she was hugely against land mines and you just know that was hitting someone's cheque book.
@Unknown: So the book says, around the time of the Ripper killings, there was a group of upper crust who frequented some brothels on the seedy side of town. One of the hookers got knocked up by Queen Victoria's deaf son, who was next inline to the throne. She was Catholic and had a boy.
The Freemason's didn't want any Catholic's influencing the monarchy, but they couldn't kill a royal, so they killed the 4 other whores who knew the deal, a fifth was killed because of mistaken identity.
They go into how false flag/misdirection was used in some of the killings. Like a riot a block away to draw potential witnesses, then a hooker cut up.
Story goes, the Catholic hooker was put in a mental instituion, the kid in an orphanage and the deaf prince had a faux death and banishment to a castle. In exchange for hiding the prince for the rest of his life the lord of the castle would have a daughter married into the royal family. I believe that was Queen Elizabeth's mother.
This is all off the top of my head. I read the book about 10 years ago, and may not be spot on with every detail, just giving enough info to entice you into the book, which I enjoyed.
Wow, scandalous! Thank you for taking the time to write that out. I am going to google away...
It sounds just crazy enough to seem plausible.
MzHarley
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@Count Jerkula, the movie was better. Johnny Depp and Heather Graham!
@Count Jerkula @Unknown - There was a Johnny Depp 2001 movie "FROM HELL" referenced that story with some minor plot changes.
As they say "truth is stranger than fiction". I love a good conspiracy! What people who question whether or not this could be somewhat true need to look past the government. Think HIGHER!
Its just you has nailed it.
Haven't royal families conspired against their enemies for centuries? It's plausible. I mean really - all they needed to do was spike the driver's drink. If that didn't do the trick, then they would have gotten her in the hospital.
I too love conspiracy theories, the more complex the better. But i dont really believe ANY of them.
As for so called royality, i dont believe anyone is royal blood wise. There isnt any such thing. They may descend from people who are looked on as royal, but they are just regular humans. I bow to no one!!!!!
oh please not this again
Khan would not have married her
I really can't see any of this being true
Is it possible that Dodi was the intended target and Diana was either a good excuse or simply in the wrong place at the wrong time?
Wasn't Khan married already? And how would a hooker know WHO knocked her up? Loved Diana and am from Wales so followed her life closely. So sad.
she was murdered by MI6, firstly because Harry wasn't her husbands son, and she was also talking too much.
Also, she wasnt wearing her seat belt, I remember that being mentioned a lot at the time. There no excuse if you have hands to not wear your seat belt.
@AnotherGrayHare: I think the book said he had taken a fondness to her and set her up in an art studio apt. Pretty much she made the step from hooker to sugar baby.
I didn't know From Hell was loosely based on that book/theory. I enjoy Depp movies and Heather Graham's tits are always a plus. I'm gonna have to see this. Thank you 7 of 11 and Borg Queen.
She was a drama queen who played the public like a fiddle. She had several acknowledged lovers while married and Charles is the bad guy for remaining in love with the love of his life? How does that make any sense? Camilla's greatest crime was being ugly if you go by Diana's endless whining. At least they learned the lesson that you shouldn't be forcing the heir to marry Earls' daughters if they love somebody else.
Royal families have no enemies anymore because they have no power. The worst you can say about them is they cost the state more than they're worth. But that is a silly argument after seeing the UK economic boost William & Kates' wedding, The Jubilee and the birth of the heir have had. Sure it's all theater now but it is compelling theater. They are living symbols of 1000 years of English history. That has to be worth something.
i love all the endearing thoughts left her about diana, i concur, i loved her because I felt like even though she was a princess, literally, I could relate to her. I could because as perfect a 'Princess' should be, she opened up about her foibles, falls, insecurities, anxieties, low times...and that's human.
I was there for the funeral, I worked there. Never in my life will millions of people gather in one specific spot, in a world class large city, peacefully and w/ such a shared compassion. of course i bawled when her casket rode by. a soldier-less horse led the carriage, ceremony and symbolism reserved for military hereos, reserved for a weeping princess.
love you diana, the world still desperately needs your shy smile and honest good.
Count, you're killing me. Thanks for the clarification on the royal hooker. My name in one of your posts and then a crack about someone's breasts. My prudish heart can't take it. (Ducks for cover as CJ fires back something filthy)
The conspiracy theories are beyond hilarious. Diana didn't give a shit about Dodi, and there was NO WAY she was ever going to marry him. His father is still grieving to this day and still looking for someone, anyone, to blame, but that doesn't make him right. He's just kind of pathetic at this point. No, as others have said, if Diana was going to be killed for falling in love, it would have been while she was dating the good doctor Hasnat Khan. It's been nearly two decades now. Can we just shut up about her already?
If you seriously think the royal family had the military Diana killed, you're a fucking idiot. They have ZERO power and they weren't "afraid that she'd marry a Muslim," because she wasn't going to marry a Muslim -- she wasn't in love with Dodi, they had been dating for a very short time and he was essentially a rebound guy because she was really in love with that doctor from India -- or maybe Pakistan -- I forget!
Also, they wouldn't be afraid that she would marry him, because there was NO ENGAGEMENT! Supposedly, he was going to propose to her that night! I guess the queen, in addition to secretly being in control of the british intelligence service and having the ability to control a municipal police department in a foreign city, has the ability to read minds from a distance and JUST KNEW that they were going to get engaged -- even though Diana didn't love him and really wanted to marry the doctor, who she was actually in love with.
Also also -- IN WHAT WORLD IS $7 MILLION ON A CAR ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION NOT A BIG DEAL???
Farking eedgits!
God bless you for your rationale.
@Anothergrayhare: You are welcome. Nuthin filthy to fire back, no reason for duckin.
Yes please
You're making way too much sense
@ Star (2nd Unknown here)
The US government also blew up a bar in Russia in the late 70s, or early 80s. I believe four to six US servicemen were killed. Chechen rebels were blamed, and it opened up $$ from Congress to fight the rebels.
Twenty years later, this information was revealed in a very small article in The Wall Street Journal, where I read it. The information came from recently released documents from the gov't. I can't remember which gov't agency was responsible for the planning & execution of this attack.
That said, I believe Di died in a car accident, and foreign terrorists were responsible for 911.
US and other Western governments' actions in the Middle East, Africa, and South America that greatly contributed to the rise in fundamentalism , and hatred of the West... well, that's another discussion.
Seek out School of the Americas Assassins - a short documentary about the US gov't training foreign government leaders who go on to commit atrocities. Someone uploaded it to YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4eLYXJIZfg
www.imdb.com/title/tt0111088/
No, but William and Harry would have had an 'Arabic' step sibling. I don't think the Old Duke would have liked that.
I don't think she was openly seeing Khan was she? I don't think there's any pictures of them together, maybe that's the difference.
I read in an article somewhere that when she was taken to the hospital, she wasn't taken to the nearest one. She was taken one further away and she died in the ambulance.
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