NSA spying on your calls. Do you care?
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I'm so grateful we have "This Hour has 22 Minutes" & Rick Mercer in Canada. Both shows are ALL ABOUT ripping apart gov't officials, policies & scandals. They are also aired on our National (gov't funded) stations.
For all those complacent people thinking "What's the worry if you've done nothing wrong?" I implore you to revisit the Dixie Chicks country-wide lashing and sad demise for being 'unpatriotic'.
A country/system/mentality that can snuff out a simple, non-violent group for simply debating gov't is bloody scary.
The U.S gov't needs to stop romanticising their country as the 'beacon of freedom'. No-one's buying it.
I'm shocked at the number of people posting they don't care. Apathy will be our downfall.
We care about our privacy just as much as you guys do. Making this a generational thing solves nothing. Dividing us solves nothing. We ALL need to get together and fight our privacy.
I'm just so tired of older people attacking my generation as if baby boomers never raised kids…its their kids who ended up ruining this fucking planet. Now we ALL have to fix it.
Do you know the vast majority? Then shut the fuck up and stop generalizing. I'm 21 and I don't even have fb
Interesting…since this has expanded under Obama. Guess he still as that permanent "hall pass" from the politically correct set.
oh shut up most everyone! in this age of terrorism and if saves people why not. if you have nothing to be guilty about then you shouldn't care. I'd rather be safe than sorry. And seriously, they are not listening in just for fun.
I give fucks but not enough to get up off my lazy ass and shake my fist any more. It's old news somehow being treated like new news. Was actually at part of a hearing on warrantless wiretapping years ago (2005?)… And the government's case was like Kafka had teamed up with dr Seuss. Counsel couldn't mention fisa or warrantless wiretapping at all b/c it was supposed to be a state secret.
Jesus h Christ….Snowdons next reval is probably gonna be that air is comprised of a fair amount of oxygen!!
OH THE HUMANITY!
How's about you tell us something we haven't already known for years……
They've been doing it, everyone just forgot about it for 12 years.
The NSA can kiss my country ass. I don't break the law, but if they ever did look for me, the gators will be happy to see them.
First .. Oh My!! What the hell has been going on here lately that EL is having to resort to approving comments?? Damn that "Himmmmmmmmmmm.. uhm .. mmmmmm" for dragging in the riff raff.
Second .. I pity the NSA if they are listening to my conversations. BO -RING!
But does it bother me? It bothered the hell out of me in 2006 .. but now .. after all this time .. I guess I have gotten too old and/or too tired to be truly concerned any more.
In the sense that my government is wasting their time scanning my calls and/or texts, the overwhelming majority of which say something like "do we need catfood, hon?" or "I'm in Ocean Beach now, so yeah, I can pick up weed there," then yes, I care.
no. and, this is why disposable phones were invented. I used one during my divorce. when I was done with it I threw it away. no trail.
I'm Gen Y, we don't make phone calls.
…and argh, screwed up my who voted/who didn't vote from turnout in the 2012 election. Voter turnout for 2012 was ~57% of eligible citizens (which is nothing to be proud of) but that is definitely more than half. Mea culpa.
And that's probably put me on some kind of watch list.
It's just too Soviet Cold-War for me. When I was in school we learned how those "poor Soviets" had no freedom. The government could listen in to any phone conversation you may have — that was portrayed as a huge marker in how evil the Soviet system was. They'd always add how America doesn't do that, how there's checks and balances to keep this stuff from happening. Taking those away is a huge deal.
Maybe the NSA can do something about the contractors that ignore the Do Not Call List and telephone me on a daily basis.
@Robert, that was really well said.
Yes it bothers me a lot.
Absolute violation of my rights. I have been having all kinds of fun with it, if they really are keeping track of what I'm doing. 🙂
Hell no I don't care. I also don't care how much the TSA looks at my naked image I have nothing to hide!
Hell yes, I care!
SusanB and Priscilla both make excellent points. Maybe the next few presidents will be OK, but what happens if we get a bad one — one who is hellbent on crushing his enemies, real or imagined? All the infrastructure is in place to ruin people's lives, and it will all be legal.
George Carlin had a great joke about a man who new his phone was tapped by the FBI. He would answer the phone "F*** Hoover, yes how can I help you?" Food for thought.
I feel sorry for the schmucks who have to listen to all of it! When I lived in China our handlers told us to speak more slowly so their translators could understand. I think it's silly to think it isn't done here. Way better when it's out in the open. Always get a kick out of little clicky noises on the phone and my friends and I start speaking in Chinese just for kicks.
They are matching up the records of calls made with those of suspected terrorists. They are not listening in on all of our private calls. I lived in NYC during 9/11 and agree that this is the price of keeping our country safer. We can't have it both ways – total privacy and public safety as well.
Total waste of tax dollars until agency management gains skills beyond taint licking. At least they cleaned house at IRS to some degree. No changes at FBI? All those incompetent managers who ignored warnings about 911 and Boston still on the job, which is a crime. NSA has secret and unlimited budget. Are they buying yachts like NOAA Fisheries Law Enforcement for their wives to wreck? Inspector General reports are swept under the rug every day. Government agency employees should be held accountable, starting at the top.
Yep. So I don't own a 'smart' phone (thanks a lot, Jobs), I rarely upload photos to facebook, and we use a rotary phone.
Please let them listen
Even though I am as innocent as a newborn baby I do care and I do not like it.
@Susan B, you are so right. I agree wholeheartedly with your post.
You ask that like it's a human being listening. There is software scanning for keywords. And we all know software always works exactly as intended. The NSA phone monitoring system is about as much a threat to me as the automated machine guns mounted outside the prison in Idiocracy that pointed at each other & started firing. There is just too much data coming in for all the humans alive on the planet to ever interpret if they were all tasked to make sense of it. And the NSA employs considerably less people than all the humans on the planet.
Nope, don't care a bit!
I hate talking on the phone. My phone conversations are the least interesting thing about me. My text messages however…