Let me preface this post, by saying that if this story ever comes out, it would blow the music world up and shake it to its core..This would put the Milli Vanilli scandal and Ashlee Simpson SNL situation so far down the ladder it would be crazy..
Towards the end of last year I had a woman come into my office and she began to explain what she had done and had been doing for several years and it was one of the very few times that I just could not believe what I was hearing..I know the music industry inside and out, and I had never heard of something so extensive and pervasive as this..
This woman (S) came into my office because the payments she had been receiving had stopped and she wanted to either get the money that was owed to her, or expose what she had been doing to the light of day..
S is a sessions/studio/backup singer and is very good..Prior to her involvement in what I am going to describe, she made a very good living singing on commercials and being a backup singer for groups and other solo acts, etc..Like I said she is very good, but she does not really have that "look" which would make her a star, so record companies did not put her out front, but just used her talents..
In late 2000, a man came to her one day and said he needed someone to record some demos because he had written a lot of songs, but wanted a demo to shop the songs to singers and record labels..This is not unusual at all and she had done this type of work before and it paid pretty well so she agreed. What was unusual about her recording of the demos was how much work was put into the actual recordings..It was extensive..Generally there is not much time put into the recordings because you never really know if the song will even sell, and the money spent on recording could be put to better uses..These demos she was recording were actually being treated as if they were going to be released on a CD or to radio..They even did some mixing which was REALLY unusual..
After a few weeks she had recorded about over a dozen songs and she went on her way and was really oblivious to anything else pertaining to it, UNTIL several months later she was in her car and heard her voice coming from the radio, only it was another singer being given credit..(We will call this other singer MV for Milli Vanilli) She could not believe what she was hearing and did not know whether to be excited to hear herself on the radio, confused about the credit given to another singer or just pissed off for the same reasons..
What she did do, was to call the man who had originally come to her and had her record the songs..The man agreed to meet her and gave her a substantial sum of money and promised to keep giving her money every month as long as she kept her mouth shut. MV was taking off..(MV has/had several Top 40 songs and CD's. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30's..I really cannot go into much more detail or else it would be too easy to discover) MV was everywhere..on television, radio, awards shows, commercials..EVERYWHERE..meanwhile, S continued to get money every month and kept her little secret to herself..The guy who picked S was VERY lucky..Most singers would have caused a fuss, but S has always been in the background and was resigned to the fact she always would be, and was very happy just taking the $$, and did not want that to stop..
About 9 months go by and S is called by the guy because MV is going on tour and they want S to record some extra mixes and such for the tour..She agrees and does not really do much, but money is money..
Fast forward another year or so and S stops receiving money and after a few months of missed payments, calls the guy who explains that they need S to do another CD and then the payments can continue, but there is no more money unless she does more recordings..
S agrees and records another CD worth of songs which is released several months later and does even better than the first CD. This same process is repeated (I am not going to tell you the number of CD's because again you may be able to deduce and so I will just say the process repeated itself several times)
Well everything goes well for the most part for all these years and then no more payments, and no more calls and she cannot even locate our mystery man..S has not received a payment in six months when she came into my office and related this story..She did not even know the guy's name, but when she described him, I knew who he was and was even more floored than I had been previously..This was just something I had really not heard before..
I had heard of really altering voices in the recording studios and bringing in hired hands for one song or a large portion of a song, but never CD after CD and even doing extra work so a live performance would not sound staged..I told her I needed some time to check into her story and then we could proceed..It took two calls before I got the guy on the phone and he was pissed, scared, angry, threatening, remorseful..everything..It turns out the reason he had stopped making payments was he had been playing some shell games with the money between the record company, MV's earnings and MV's investments and just did not have any additional money..In addition, MV was not sure she wanted to continue on with what had been happening and so our mystery guy might be completely out of the picture..
I actually think the record company to this day has no idea what went on as the Guy was very good at what he does/did and knew how to make sure the record company was always happy..He stayed under budget, toured, made MV available, and made the record company money..
So a meeting was arranged in my office and S and MV finally met face to face..they had never done so, even though it was S who made MV a star..MV was rude to say the least when she saw what S looked like and it really upset me although S being her normal classy self could have cared less..
What we agreed to do that day was to provide S with one lump sum rather than a monthly income which was easier for Guy to pull off and S also agreed to never disclose her role in this drama and MV was on her own for future recordings and tours..
This involved literally millions of CD's and hundreds of concerts all over the world..The one thing I did get out of this beside my fee of course is a Gold Record autographed by S and by MV..I know it is the only one in the world..
Tuesday, November 21, 2006
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wow, so many possibilities. i actually heard that this was done sometime in the '90s, like in the marky mark "good vibrations" video and stuff.
ReplyDeletei know it cannot possibly be mariah, whitney, or even beyonce because i've heard them sing acapella right in from of me. how about some of the lesser-known r&b singers, like ashanti? ciara?
Can U get S to sing for me? hahahaha.
ReplyDeletea lot of people on OHNOTHEYDIDNT (a popular celebrity blog) are guessing alicia keys.
ReplyDeletehere's the link:
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/9636861.html
add ".html" after the link
ReplyDeleteso it should read:
96368.html
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ReplyDeletewe at ohnotheydidnt ARE going insane. MORE INFORMATION PLEASE
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ReplyDeleteQUESTION:
ReplyDeleteHave they been on the cover of a major magazine? i.e. Rolling Stone?
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I think it's Jennifer Lopez.
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ReplyDeleteIs the singer still working in music or has she moved on to other business ventures (acting, clothing line, commercials...)?
ReplyDeleteWe need to get back to work/school/families and we can't do so until this case is cracked. Lives are hanging in the balance.
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ReplyDeleteOK MORE IMPORTANTLY...
ReplyDeleteA-list TV heartthrobs who have fathered kids with 15-year-old girls
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ReplyDeleteDUFFSTER.
ReplyDeleteim dying on the inside with every guess. PLEASE give us a hint!
ReplyDeleteI'm betting it's J-Lo. Or maybe Ashanti.
ReplyDeleteBTW, I love your blog! That "certain other blogger" you mentioned in a previous post has been losing his touch lately and you could probably fill that current gap in my online life. Keep it up with the excellent scoop!
you have opened up a can of worms at ONTD, ill have you know
ReplyDeleteI can't stand the torture!
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Can we play a game of hangman to guess it?
Anything?
I almost hope ONTD doesn't crack this because I want you to keep giving us hot blinds for years to come!
ReplyDeleteNorah Jones?
ReplyDeleteI call BS!
ReplyDeleteyes! ontd is going crazy. check it out!
ReplyDeleteand yeah we're sick of mr. high & mighty; stealing everything and taking credit as if it's his scoop.
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ReplyDeletemore info about gay and lesbians in hollywood please. <3
ReplyDeletehave they done other thigs besides music? ex. clothing line, perfume?
ReplyDelete<3 ontd
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ReplyDeletePeople, don't be so gullible. A REAL lawyer would never even hint about his clients (especially on the internet, where his ISP address could be tracked down). He'd get caught and disbarred. I guess PT Barnum was right, a sucker is born every minute.
ReplyDeleteI constructed a timeline of events and I can't find anything that fits perfectly. The closest I've got is Norah Jones.
ReplyDeleteI kinda think it's just BS.
Re: actually P.T. Barnum never said 'Theres a sucker born every minute'
ReplyDeleteThat was something the media made up.
good try though.
I made up a blog pretending to be George Clooney once. People thought it was real. lololol
It's all bullshit. Unless lawyers are as illiterate as this guy? I suppose it is possible but this guy writes like his education didn't surpass the third grade.
ReplyDeleteWHO IS SHE?
ReplyDeletedear lawyer!
ReplyDeleteyou are a big storyteller!!!
everyone can fudge a story without telling any names!
Btw: I don't believe that you 're a lawyer! And please do me a favor and do sth. efficient with your time!!! thanks!
Was this someone singing for Paula or Janet? (have no clue WHO though)
ReplyDeleteMV = Madonna Veronica Ciccone
ReplyDeleteMadonna's first album was ok, with Holiday and Everybody, but the second, was huge (Like A Virgin), so it fits perfectly.
Also with the MV thinh, wich is not know that Madonna has Veronica on her name.
To the last commenter, he said he called the MV for "Milli Vanilli." It's no one's initials, and Madonna sounds the same as she always has.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I actually think it's Alicia Keyes for sure now, assuming this isn't a bunch of BS. I have to agree with the other commenter who said that this guy writes fairly poorly for a lawyer.
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ReplyDeleteWell, I don't remember Alicia Keys in any commercials - the only one that fits this is JLo but I think one of her songs has actually gone up there - and plus, she sucks and so does alicia keys - so, they wouldn't be it and Norah JOnes does mainly live performances so that's not it either - it could very well be ghetto Beyonce!! ooh - those that have heard her in real life said that she can't hold a key! ouch
ReplyDeleteIf it is true, my bet would be Evanesence (spelling?)... he refers to a female singer, but also refers to "they" when talking about concerts and albums.
ReplyDeleteIt can't be JLO- she's NEVER TOURED~
ReplyDeletemariah carey
ReplyDeleteI say Madonna - the use of a capital "G" when he mentions "Guy" seems like a clue to me, also because S has been around a while, it seems...
ReplyDeleteAlicia Keys has been in a Proactiv infomercial, right?
ReplyDeletewhat about joss stone?
ReplyDeleteThis smacks of one of those weird emails you've heard about where some dude has, like, embezzled some money but doesn't have citizenship and only YOU can help and it will pay big-assed dividends, etc. etc.
ReplyDeleteI call mad bullshit.
Or else maybe it's Alicia Keys.
i hope it's not christina aguilera but that was a big year for her (2000-2001) as well as for Britney.
ReplyDeleteI hope it's not J. Lo ... who wants to take credit for her "singing??????"
ReplyDeleteMan this is crazy.....!!! i think its Ashanti, or Ciara... nope can't be Ciara she has less than three cd's my guess is Ashanti..
ReplyDeleteI say this whole blind item is bullshit. No one seems to fit the bill.
ReplyDeleteBRITNEY SPEARS
ReplyDeletecan't be joss stone. i've heard her sing live duets w/ elton john, donna summer and john legend. that would have been too complicated to record. plus, she's only had 2 cds and i dont think she's really toured. joss is legit. i love her!
ReplyDeleteI have hear Alicia keys sing live, acapella and beautifully...so don't think it is here.
ReplyDeleteI think you're fudging on the date. I wouldn't be surprised if it were someone earlier and much more famous like Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston.
ReplyDeleteif this is real, it's gotta be someone bigger than friggin Hillary Duff if it would be "worse than ashlee simpson." who the hell cares about hillary duff? it's gotta be someone who has won awards (a la MV) or has been called a good singer. no one gives two shits about HD's voice!
ReplyDeleteThats crazy. Everything in the dark shall be revealed to the light. EVERYTHING! hopefully in my life time haha
ReplyDeleteIts not Alicia Keys bone head.... I've heard her live. Her voice cracked and the whole shabang but she was still dope. It's gotta be Brit. Some form of Pop Star. And this smells real. Reason being...This is Hollywood ppl....crazier shit happens. there are countless under cover celebs...and boner biting divas who gouged their way to the top. I mean come on people! Anything goes down in HollyHood....
ReplyDeleteDoes her name starts with a J and ends with a Lo?
ReplyDeletei'm saying nicole shertzinger (sp) from the PCD
ReplyDeleteThe guy said they made S record live stuff and worked hard to make it sound really live so I wouldn't really leave out Alicia Keys. with today's technology I don't think it's really hard to make a lipsynched performance seem believable.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I'm thinking it's J.Lo.
what about any country singers that have won awards and gone on tour??
ReplyDeleteIt can't be J.Lo. It says the album was recorded in 2000, and there was only one follow-up. Lopez's first album came out in 1999, and has had a few successors.
ReplyDeleteI've heard this story before but am wary about the authenticity of this blog for a number of reasons. Attorney-Client privilege for starters. So what you omitted names and changed the dates?!? You've laid out the premise of exactly what went down and that my friend crosses the line of confidentiality. Secondly, you are allegedly based in LA. From what I know about this supposed "scandal" is that the players involved-- meaning the record company and vocalists-- are based in NYC so I'm not sure if you are really who you say you are. And thirdly, the fact that you just started this blog this month and you are already checking how many hits you have and noting your web traffic just as you post this huge 'earth shattering' info let's me know that maybe MV isn't the only one having trouble paying her bills and that this just may be your new racket in hopes of getting a major book deal to tell all of your "stories". Damn with all this blogging when the hell do you find time to practice law anyway?!? Yeah just as I thought-- no billable hours equals more time for new blogger hustle.
ReplyDeleteAnd for everyone else, it is definitely NOT Alicia Keys. This I know because I was in the studio for a few sessions on her first album which was done for one label, subsequently rejected, and then picked up by another. She sang all her joints herself.
I never said she was not from NYC, and never said she was. I simply said she came to my office. Where had she been for the years prior. I do not remember saying.
ReplyDeleteAlso, you are right about the billable hours. I generally try and bill about 7 a day, six days a week and this month has been a LOT lower.
According to imdb, Alicia Keys graduated valedictorian from "Fame" HS where she majored in choir.
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't have to be a great writer to be a lawyer. They have paralegals.
It's probably Britney if it's true.
PINK
ReplyDeletePink?
ReplyDeleteIt has to be someone who has a speaking voice totally different than their singing voice.
ReplyDeleteJ Lo's singing sounds just like her speaking voice (she even kind of speak/sings in some of her songs).
Britney's terrible songs sound just like her speaking voice too.
I have to think Madonna's singing sounds like her speaking voice too...plus she did Evita and the producers would have known if it wasn't her & wouldn't have given her the role-she fought HARD for that role.
So I can't guess who it is...but I think it's someone pretty big.
Right!! I want to add that Clive Davis "discovered" A Keys & although she sounded awful at WH's funeral Clive wouldn't back up fake talent
DeleteYou say that when S came into your office after not receiving a payment for 6 months that she didn't know the name of the guy that she had done the work for, or how to get a hold of him. What a bunch of hooey. The music industry isn't THAT big - you mean to tell us that she did a bunch of work and didn't even get the guy's name?? As if...
ReplyDeleteFor those saying this guy's not really a lawyer, think about this:
ReplyDeleteOnly way this scandal would really come out is if S blew it up, but then she's violate the agreement & get sued. MV isn't going to sue the lawyer b/c then she'd be blowing up her own spot.
She wanted to be a star but was too (fat? ugly?) to get there, so she sang back-up and commercial work. Fair enough. When she realised that a big star had earned their fame from her voice, why wouldnt she go to the press then? She'd not only be front page news and be on all the talk shows but could tour to large audiences off of the reveal, at least for a short period of times. See, it doesn't ring true, does it? Another issue would be the payments- if the star was selling millions of records, the singer would likely expect hundreds of thousands of dollars. How would the manager get that cash: "Hi, I need $300000." "What for?" "er, I can't tell you". I may not know much about the law, but I do know that accountancy doesn't work like that! The singer would probably keep asking for more and more money, using the threat of making the whole secret public if refused.
ReplyDeleteMy conclusion- entertaining, certain to go on/ have gone on more than the ones that have been made public- Milli Vanilli, Boney M, Blackbox, but this story is probably a scam or too many details have been bodged to consider it legitimate.
NELLY FURTADO
ReplyDeleteseriously im going to kill myself if its britney or hilary duff!! please tell us!!!!
ReplyDeletegwen stefanie jewel i know the nothing.
ReplyDeleteBarbra Streisand, after a "century" singing, great voice, is not hers, LOL
ReplyDeletexoxo,
Kraig
Mandy Moore??
ReplyDeleteyo you say she might be a big hitter or might not then u say she sold millions of records and did loads of tours so make ur mind up!!! if she sold that many shed not have gold discs but platinum yeah, its too corny this shit dude
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling its Blu Cantrell...
ReplyDeleteSounds like Britney except for the bit about her second album being more successful than the first - Britney's sales decrease by half with each album. But it would fit with the rest of her career and life, one lie after another.
ReplyDeletevanessa williams brandy
ReplyDeleteLet me take a guess; like sister, like sister, Jessica Simpson?
ReplyDeleteThere are 2 times when S isn't paid for several months, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE BABIES!!! Señorita Britney, PACK YOUR BAGS, please. Who else could we think about that would get angry to see that the woman that has made her rich doesn't look as pretty as her? We all saw her grab the snake (ahem!) while trying to sing a long and her lips going nowhere. She's being a sister since a little girl, and being on her own from now on won't be too much a trouble for her. Assuming, of course, that the secret doens't come out quickly.
A pal of mine said this:
ReplyDeleteAshanti came out around that time and Christina Milian was supposed to be the breakout star b/c she had just had a duet with Ja Rule (I rmb cuz I lived there in NYC at the time) but Murder Inc is corrupt...and it makes sense that the guy stopped giving the real singer money b/c they were being investigated by the FBI, so their assets were frozen...
But you can go on youtube, look up Ashanti, see video of what really does appear to be her singing LIVE >look at her with Smokey Robinson - can anyone lip sync to someone else THAT well?
ReplyDeleteI totally think it's Jennifer Lopez. There has been something that has ALWAYS bothered me about J. Lo and it's that around the time she did the movie Selena, I was watching an interview with her, and they asked if she did the singing and she was like;
ReplyDelete"No, I can't sing."
Then a year or two later, On The 6 comes out and I was like, WTF? I thought she said she can't sing.
Selena was in 1997.
Assuming there's a little leeway in dates because people often mix things up, let's look at Jenny from the Block's timeline:
1999 - On The 6 hits, makes it to the top ten
2001 - J. Lo comes out, debuts at number one (the second record did even better than the first)
J. Lo's last album didn't do as well, and fell off the charts pretty quickly, so she could be considering scrapping this whole thing in favor of her perfumes, clothing line, movies, and crap. Even though she's supposedly working on another studio album, when was the last time she was actually in a studio, and not being trailed by the hand by her husband?
Who cares??? There are more important things to get all enthused about!
ReplyDelete^^You care, obviously. Otherwise, you wouldn't have bothered to post here.
ReplyDeleteShania Twain.
ReplyDeleteit is definately NOT NELLY FURTADO.
ReplyDeletethat girl can really sing, and anyway her second album, folklore, decreased in sales.
It just dosent fit.
Nope. I don't agree with the whole JLo saying, "I can't sing." I live near where Selena lived and when the movie was being made, JLo made a big stink about wanting to do her own singing, but Selena's father insisted Selena's tracks be used in her movie. I doubt JLo ever said that.
ReplyDeleteit is definately NOT NELLY FURTADO.
ReplyDeletethat girl can really sing, a...
Are you kidding me? Se her on SNL in the last year? Terrible!
Speaking of SNL... Christina friggin rocked it a couple weeks ago. I don't listen to that music, but I was totally impressed with her abilities (at least that 1st song, and the one with Tony Bennett).
Lindsay Lohan
ReplyDeleteShakira!!! Shakira Shakira Shakira
ReplyDeleteBreakthrough to the engligh market 2001
Its paris hilton and the singer ghosting for her is the lead singer of the pop punk band Shiny Toy Guns.
ReplyDeleteno lie
I think it is either Alicia Keys or Jennifer Lopez, but my money is on Alicia Keys because of the mention of awards. Has J-Lo received any?
ReplyDeleteEnya.
ReplyDeleteI believe it's Mariah Carey, I swear.
ReplyDeleteRhianna for sure - Milli Vanilli all over - can't speak english but sings it well - and Jay Z found her
ReplyDeleteThis story is SOOOOO bullshit...
ReplyDeleteI have worked in the music industry before, but moved on towards academia. Occasionally, I still get calls to work on something here or there.
The thing is, this is a common practice in the industry...not overtly doing someone elses vocals, but in quite a few other ways. For instance, my partner and I have 'co-written' several songs for artists. Co-written in quotes because they have an idea, we ask them about the back stories associated with it, does it come from their lives, is it a story they are intimately familiar with, what...
We may take elements of what they already had in place, but most of the time, its rewritten in its entirety. Analyze the artists back catalogue, if they have one, for stylistic earnotes and go from there.
I've only been credited on one song in 10 years, and it wasn't even mine. My partner was well known in the 70s and 80s, but he too gets paid more to stay in the background.
A lot of times, these are recorded by session players, with guys that do the same thing (lot of players that have no style of their own can imitate someone elses). Occasionally, even the artists will be deceived, I've seen artists record and then everything retracked without their knowledge. I won't take part in something like this.
There are ironclad contracts in place for these sorts of things. Most of the time as hired guns we don't even take in royalties. I don't care -- I get paid for my time. It isn't a crap shoot like my first time in the industry where my face was associated with a band (well, in the background, even though I wrote everything).
As part of these ironclad contracts, its pretty much known that if you try to get any more money out of anyone, it will be considered blackmail as well as breach of contract. *NO ONE* that has ever done this has ever worked in the industry again. I'm sure they may get a solo independent career and this may force the industry into taking the chance, but you will not get hired on talent and potential alone. More than likely, you'd be sued out of existence and the recording industry lawyer will petition to close the case to the public -- of which, the only time I've heard of this, the backup artist tried going to the public and was jailed in contempt of court.
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So having said all of this, why is this story bullshit? Because I work with enough IP lawyers as well as industry representation. Not one would risk what this person is risking. The lawyer would know he was participating in blackmail, and could risk disbarment. The artist wouldn't have some shell game to pay someone else. Its pretty upfront; the pop industry has different standards than non-commodity music. The backup artist was paid and there was no other reason to keep paying for hush money.
All in all, the story stinks.
PS -- no I'm not breaking any rules by mentioning this stuff because I haven't mentioned artists or corporations. The practice is known, and the music is the same no matter who created it. The only people that get upset about these practices are the same people that wouldn't buy the 'ugly artists' albums for purely aesthetic purposes (and the same exact people that buy Paris or Lindsay albums no matter how shitty they are). Music should stand on its own...
Oh yeah, music technology is at a point where you can imprint one vocal quality on top of someone elses performance. A shitty take can be 'tweened' and blended so that it really is a combined performance. The backup artist can provide the timing and articulation, while the 'performer' can impart their own poor takes and have their own words overlay almost the exact path without any of the backups audio imprint remaining. If you know what you are looking for, you can here timbre changes in the bends and gracenotes as the poor artist probably won't be able to align themselves to these (these are where timing can't self correct and as such, it becomes all about pitch sync). I've tried this on my own voice and its a perfect example that the complete talentless couldn't compete. Most bad singers are still better that 99% of the public.
'S' stands for Seana.
ReplyDeleteI saw Shakira perform LIVE, I was in front of her. I heard her voice. She's the real deal!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=71736437
ReplyDeleteI've heard that Britney Spears rarely sings on her albums and didn't someone come forward a while back saying that one of Britney's albums was half her vocals.
ReplyDeletehttp://people.monstersandcritics.com/archive/peoplearchive.php/Alicia_Keys/biog
ReplyDeletehttp://people.monstersandcritics.com/archive/peoplearchive.php/Alicia_Keys/biog
ReplyDeleteBlack Eyed Peas?
ReplyDeleteThis is a hoax. He contradicts himself several times. For example, he claims when the money first stopped rolling that she called her money-man. Later he claims she didn't even know his name. Riiiight.
ReplyDeleteShades of Martha Wash and Blackbox/C+C Music Factory. She let them dog her twice, which was unbelievable to me.
ReplyDeleteAnyway..It's not Vanessa Williams, i can assure you of that. I saw her on Broadway several years ago in "Kiss of the Spider Woman", and believe me, she can blow. It's not Brandy, because she has sounded the same from the beginning, and she doesn't tour too tough due to stage fright. It's not Blu Cantrell because she wasn't that popular.
I have no idea why folks would say Alicia Keys, especially after she did "Unplugged". The performance she gave then with her speaking and launching right into song makes me believe that's her voice.
I would almost say Janet due to the concerts/millions of CD's sold, but her voice is so weak, i can't believe anyone would be paid to sound like that. (But i love you, Janet !).
The fact that i got hip to this blog from MediaTakeOut.com leads me to believe this is a R & B Artist. Based on that, i believe it's J-Ho. However...Britney Spears immediately came to my mind after reading the this.
I hope it's not Ashanti, because she would really have to be pitiful if she couldn't sing 'ooh baby' or 'aw baby' herself. Y'all know that's all she says on her records.
BTW, this person could very well be an attorney. They aren't giving enough information to easily identify MV. Whoever it is isn't going to try to sue this person because it would blow her game. The fixer isn't going to expose it because it would blow his game, and put other artists he's dealt with into question.
There's another site i visit where folks in the industry (yes, an attorney too) frequently discuss things about celebrities. You can tell who's real and who's fake. The real ones will kick dirt on that site that you hear about in the media weeks or months later. Anyway, i like your blog, and i'll be back.
Your just as bad as the supposed dude who is covering up his sorces.
ReplyDeleteWe need names for you to be credible, any way wats the point of posting this without names.
Reveal the name of the Hak or you 2 are a pointless Hak making fictional fairy stories.
I think we have posted this star video in our One Hit Wonders blog... see clip #22
ReplyDeleteThe Industry was built on this, it's no big surprise. Backmasking and Dubbing and Sound switches (the literal process of getting a substitute singer to fill in areas of a song that an artist is unable to sing properly) are all common practice in big record studios like Sony, Universal, and yes - even Jive Records.
ReplyDeleteI think this is a fake! I highly doubt that this is real, and I have no idea why 400+ blog sites make the digg frontpage today.
im so happy you posted this. let me say, i am not trying to destroy anyones career here, but people have been doubting this for a while. ive known about this from the beginning. this lady is a friend of someone i know who is very important in the music industry. its funny how at the beginning of the blog was a reference to, yes, the ashlee simpson mishap on snl. Its only funny because ladies and gentlemen, ASHLEE SIMPSON did not sing on either one of her records! and thats that.
ReplyDeleteThere are too many "singers" or bands out there that I've heard on album and live, and sound completley different... so I don't doubt this is happening in the music industry; however, I'm skeptical to believe that this is true the way you've posted it because of a few things.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, if you are a lawyer (or any other type of professional for that matter) confidentiality has to be a huge part of your life. You just don't talk about the things you are told in confidence to one person let alone on the internet.
Secondly, the way you tell the story... sounds more like a glorified fairy tale rather than a true story.
Finally... I just don't know. I agree with someone else's comment about your blog in general. I, personally, think you are telling these stories to get hits. But we are all entitled to our own opinions. I only heard about this post through a friend on LJ.
RIHANNA??
ReplyDeletecould it be? (if this shits real...)
madonna... started 500 years ago... cant be her, come on!
fergie! ever notice that she sounds different on each song?
ReplyDeletevannessa carlton.
ReplyDeleteI think this person is Pink
ReplyDeletethis story is such bullshit. supposedly S made a deal with mv's manager and arranged payments but somehow she never managed to get his name??? it wasn't until she walked into your office where she describes him and you magically know who she's referring to.
ReplyDeletefirst, i know plenty of lawyers with blog sites, and cant type worth a shit. i also know a doctor with a blog site. so that doesnt automatically discredit the guy.
ReplyDeletealso, ummmm, i believe out of everyone here, a lawyer would know the specifics of attorney/client privileges.
also remember the dates...blu cantrell? madonna? wtf? read people.
Ok. if you check Billboards top 100 (for #1 songs) for the dates mentioned from 2001-2003 on) the following artist have hit songs/albums; Britney, Christina, Alecia, and Jennifer
ReplyDelete(Although Beyonce does appear, she doesn't count everbody knows that girl can sang)
In 2001, only Britney launched a world tour (nobody lauches a world tour for songs that only get as high as #30)
From the timeline, she first album hit in early 2001 and the tour was launched about months later. If you'll follow this link, it also seems to answer some of the other questions, for instance, the launch of her next album. Plus, if you read her appearance details, she's EVERYWHERE by this time.
http://music.launch.com/read/story/12031876
What is it with you americans? The phrase is "COULDN'T have cared less". If she could care less, it implies that she cares at all.
ReplyDeleteThe phrase "I couldn't care less" means that it is impossible for the person to care any less than they already do; therefore they do not care at all.
You see?
*gaaahh*
Doh! Do a Google for "Gullible" + "American' and this shit will show up. Ask Frank Farian about how to do it properly...
ReplyDeleteI'm singin' in the rain,
ReplyDeleteJust singin' in the rain......
:-)
Gwen Stefani
ReplyDeleteTwo things -
ReplyDelete1) this isn't unusual in the world of pop music at all
Which leads me to
2) from the way you write, I don't believe you are a lawyer at all. Your sentence structure is not that of one legally trained - this is compounded by the fact you seem to be surprised about the idea of ringers in the music buisness which is as old as the profession itself.
Yeah, this ghosting stuff is scary. The singer from The Fold (thefoldrock.com) has been ghosting for Billy Joe Armstrong since the beginning of Green Day. Freaky!
ReplyDeleteWhy do I think it's Avril LaVigne?
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna go ahead and guess Shania Twain. She is creepy.
ReplyDeleteIt's obviously Shakira.
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ReplyDeleteThis is pretty much the same story that broke in the 90's, when the "Everybody dance now!" chick from C&C Music Factory was deemed too fat for the video and replaced in videos and concerts by a lip-syncing hottie. But if it's true now, I'm gonna have to guess Britney. I can see her being arrogant with a 'nobody' and she's kind of stopped singing lately. But then, so has Jessica Simpson, I hear.
ReplyDeleteAnd isn't Madonna's middle name Louise, not Veronica?
I call bullshit.
ReplyDeleteI sincerely doubt this piece was written by someone who is supposedly so well educated. Further, if this blogger had any merit whatsoever, why the standard blogger template? Surely a rich entertainment attorney could afford their own ISP and domain so they couldn't be traced so easily.
There are very few celebs, who, if found they lip synched would shake the music industry to its core. Christina Milian? Ashanti? Ciara? Hardly any of these are earth shattering. Hilary Duff? Yes, 10 year olds everywhere would need to be medicated. Britney? We already knew. Jessica Simpson? No kidding, really? Although, I can't see her ghost singer making tons of money on THAT voice. Mandy Moore? Who cares!
Unless you told me it was Madonna, Whitney, Mariah, Cher or Barbara Streisand, I would hardly consider any of the other ingenues worthy of rocking the musical world.
Nope. I am still resting firmly on bullshit.
CP.
There is no way that an attorney wrote this. There are subtle grammar mistakes throughout the story, and most of the story is not written in active voice. Lawyers write in active voice. This is something that is pounded into your brain when you are in your first year of law school. This "attorney" is not a horrible writer, but he doesn't write like a lawyer. I am in law school, and have read many pieces written by all different kinds of attorneys. I could believe that he would write like this if he were an attorney in Podunk, USA. But I stand my ground here. A successful L.A. E Law attorney would NEVER write so poorly. He's a fake.
ReplyDeleteLet me just say that, if this is true, there is no freaking way it is Britney Spears. Her tracks sound so sythetic that it's hard for me to believe someone else was hired to sing for her. "S" is said to have worked on commmercials, which would mean that she has a great voice, which Britney does not have.
ReplyDeleteAlso, it's perfectly logical that Britney would lip sync to her own tracks when she's live. It would be nearly impossible for her to dance the way she does and pull of singing as well. She would be too out of breath do both at the same time.
Let me just say that, if this is true, there is no freaking way it is Britney Spears. Her tracks sound so sythetic that it's hard for me to believe someone else was hired to sing for her. "S" is said to have worked on commmercials, which would mean that she has a great voice, which Britney does not have.
ReplyDeleteAlso, it's perfectly logical that Britney would lip sync to her own tracks when she's live. It would be nearly impossible for her to dance the way she does and pull of singing as well. She would be too out of breath to do both at the same time.
I heard it was Dave chapell
ReplyDeleteIt can't be Christina or Britney. They have been singing sence they were tots in the Mickey Mouse Club.
ReplyDeleteIF IT IS TRUE WHY PUT IT HERE?
ReplyDeletei think it's Brit brit
ReplyDeleteSo Jessica Simpson! Joe's a creep - he would do this for his daughters...and Jessica's voice sounds totally different now-in fact it sucks now. My money's on J Simpson!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 5:19 a.m.: What is it with you non-Americans that you attribute every tiny, petty act/feeling/event to someone's nationality? Here's another vernacular expression that doesn't actually make literal sense: Fuck off.
ReplyDeleteI read this a few days ago and read a couple posts saying it was such and such. I have to agree, its J LO. I listened to a song the other day and man, it sounded nothing like her. Can't be Britney, Christina, Alicia Keys, Jessica Simpson, because I know I've seen or heard all of them live.
ReplyDeleteRE: Ashlee not singing on her albums - that's complete bullshit. It's even easily-proved to be bullshit. The TV show, the live shows...come on, you can do better than that.
ReplyDeleteI say Ashanti...she debutted Jan 02...1.if this 'S' chick was contacted late in 2000, it's believable that it takes that long to build the hype for a new artist. Fast and Furious soundtrack came out in June 2001
ReplyDelete2. The Inc...is a criminal affiliated organization...Ashanti dated the CEO...why wouldn't he fudge her isht to make her a star. 3. this site http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-a/ashanti.htm runs her timeline from start to end....the checks stopping might have to do with the endictment and financial freeze on all accounts.
2002 debut #6 and maintained top 30-40 staatus for 2003 and 2004...won awards and was on Nickelodeon
I have heard Alicia Live and she's the bomb....Britney- all studio software, J-Lo possible (Puffy is the king of fudged sounds)but I don't think she stayed on the charts long enough to qualify
I don't know who it is, but why can't it be true?
ReplyDeleteSomeone earlier posted the best response to this posting and came across as someone in the know.
However, how do you explain the Martha Wash Black Box/C&CMF fiasco? I mean with all "iron clad" contracts and agreements and the black listing if you speak out then why did it come out?
What about Milli and Vanilli? Someone talked. It came out and there is no reason why it can't come out again.
Does anyone know who actually sang for Milli and Vanilli? Why didn't they just make their own record?
It's not Mariah as he likes her.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe for a second that it's Ashanti. First, she doesnt sing all that well. Second, she is famous for coming up with choruses and would be musically creative. There's really no reason for it to be her.
ReplyDeleteOf course it's not Alicia Keys.
Probably not Britney. She sounds synthetic and weak and also recorded the most part of her first album in Europe (Sweden).
JLo has a weak voice. So it ought not be her.
If it is an r&b star, how can all of these big name producers not notice that the singer is not featured on the final product? JLo has worked with Rich Harrison, Big Boi, a number of big time producers. If these guys did notice anything, why have they not spoken about this with their friends and entourage? Word should have gotten out if this was someone working with big name producers.
However, apart from Pharell and possibly Timbaland, I think these superstar producers might accept working without the singer present. But especially Pharell very much relies on the interaction with the singer. Which should be another argument for ruling out Britney (since he has worked with her several times and was set to do it again now before she blew him off).
Beyonce?
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ReplyDeletePeople, don't be so gullible. A REAL lawyer would never even hint about his clients (especially on the internet, where his ISP address could be tracked down). He'd get caught and disbarred. I guess PT Barnum was right, a sucker is born every minute.
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also don't be gullible about people who act smugly about things they don't know. I can make this post look like I'm coming from anywhere in the world by downloading a simple piece of software and running it. It doesn't take a techno-geek to add a layer of privacy online.
I have given this far too much thought, and if this isn't just a creative writing piece and is actually a true story, I've decided it's about Faith Hill.
ReplyDeleteMy money's on Faith Hill.
ReplyDeleteFUCK OUTTA HERE! IT'S A LIE
ReplyDeleteI think it's Avril.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.columbusdispatch.com/features-story.php?story=230928
ReplyDeleteI'm going with Mandy Moore, she sold reasonably well, and did a lot of TV shows, award shows, and smaller concerts. Now she's just in movies...
ReplyDeleteSome mentioned Evanescence...there's no way. Too many people have seen them live and she just doesn't sound much different except for when she's drunk. My guess is it's someone like Mandy Moore or someone who came out of Disney (sorry, I'm not familiar with all of them).
ReplyDeleteJust in case anyone wanted to throw it out for some weird reason, I can also confirm it is not Sarah McLachlan. Sarah sounds *better* live then she does on studio recordings and I've seen her several times
I just believe that this is not a unique story. This is only one that has come out - just like Mili Vannili's - I bet there are dozens of artists that move along the same thin red line.
ReplyDeletewell, i don't think it's true, but the most important thing is that so many today stars can be suspected for that... something worth thinking about
ReplyDeletejanet jackson?
ReplyDeleteI remember when Madonna came out. She used to have those backup singers and when she performed live or recorded, they always had someone singing with her or over her "voice." She may be a performer, but not a great singer. Truthfully, I was thinking of Kelly Clarkson, but she sang live on Idol, so that rules her out. And she has one hell of a set of pipes.
ReplyDeletemy friend did some sleuthing and concluded that this may be a hoax. His response is below:
ReplyDeleteThis smells like a hoax to me but I don't like mysteries so I went ahead and tried to solve this one:
The album in question was prolly released in 2001. I guessed that year because the story says that the singer was approached in "late 2000" and heard herself on the radio "several months later". There were 373 albums released in 2001 in America. For the moment, let's only consider albums released by a female solo artist. Believe it or not, that cuts the list down to 29 with a list of women that includes Alicia Keys (sorry, Cat), Madonna, Jessica Simpson, Pink, Mariah, Missy, Bjork, and three Spice Girls.
Now if we limit the list again to women whose FIRST solo album came out that year, we are left with 5. (By the way, Jessica Simpson's first CD came out in 1999, with the hits "I wanna love you forever" and "I think I'm in Love with you" being two of the singles. I know some of you thought it was her.) So who's on that list?
Album
Artist
Release Date
A Girl Like Me
Emma Bunton
16-Apr
Songs in A Minor
Alicia Keys
5-Jun
The Spirit Room
Michelle Branch
14-Aug
Victoria Beckham
Victoria Beckham
1-Oct
Laundry Service
Shakira
13-Nov
The story went on to say that the artist in question was "taking off" and "had several Top 40 songs and CD's." Also, the "star" was "everywhere..on television, radio, awards, shows, commercials..EVERYWHERE.". Well, the Spice Girls are out since Emma only sold 125,000 of her first CD. And while Victoria did slightly better, Wikipedia has this to say : "Despite being one of the most famous celebrities in Britain, and having all her music reach the UK top ten (the only solo Spice to do so), Victoria Beckham's career as a solo artist is largely considered to have been a commercial failure." Also, it seems that Posh shelves more music than she releases and has not been all that prolific in the past 5 years.
This leaves our curious threesome of Shakira, Michelle Branch, and Alicia Keys.
Michelle Branch - Apparently, this girl has been rocking out since she was 8 years old and, technically, her first album was released in 2000. It was a self release CD called Broken Bracelet. Also, she toured with Hanson in December of 2000 when Madonna noticed her and signed her up to Maverick records (What the hell was Madonna doing at a Hanson concert?!!?). She went on to win Grammies and have 3 top 40 singles of that first Maverick-backed CD. In 2002, she did that Carlos Santana song "A Game of Love" which earned her another Grammy. Her second album went platinum but only spawned one top forty single.
Alicia Keys - Allmusic.com reports that "Around the time that Songs in A Minor was released, Keys was popping up everywhere, including an Associated Press story. Where had she been before then?" Good question. Ms. Alicia Augello-Cook has has been playing the piano since age 7, wrote her first song at age 14, and graduated from the "Fame" high school at age 16. Her first commercial offering sold 235,000 the first week and sold more than ten million worldwide. This was followed by several Top 40 hits and five Grammies. Her next CD, released 2003 sold 618,000 copies the first week and has, to date, sold over 7 million units worldwide as well as earned her four more Grammies. However, Alicia's first recordings were in 1997 when she had a song on the Men In Black soundtrack. In addition, she was featured on the soundtracks of both Shaft (2000) and Dr. Doolittle 2 (2001).
Shakira - Possibly the most famous of these three, Shakira steamrolled us all in 2001 with "Whenever, Wherever", all hips and moaning. Her CD, Laundry Service, sold more than 13 million copies and spawned several top 40 hits. She has performed at numerous award shows (including singing "Dude looks like a lady" at MTV Icon in 2002. A curious choice, isn't it. Maybe she's trying to tell us something...) and has herself snagged a carload of awards both her and overseas. She is the highest selling Columbian artist of all time (unless cocaine export is considered an art) and is quite possibly one of the most influential Latin American artists ever. Of course, what hasn't been mentioned is that Shakira was already a smashing success before she reached our shores, releasing her first (failed) CD in 1991 followed by 3 more, the last which made her a household name in Latin America and Spain.
The Verdict: All three of these women have been in commercials and award shows and have been well covered by the media (Michelle Branch, prolly less so). But none of them really fit the description of the story. I mean, all these women have recordings that pre-date 2001. Finding differences in the vocals between now and then would be so easy a New York Post reporter could uncover it. What's more, all these women make a habit of performing live and while this can be faked, I would be SHOCKED to find it had been. So, in conclusion, I have no idea.
Problems: if this happened in another country, the UK for example, this is all for naught since they have different release schedules and stars altogether. Also, wherever the email came from other details might have been changed such as the year that this happened which would throw everything off. Again, I think it's a hoax.
Bib: Allmusic.com, Wikipedia.org, Amazon.com
It is Jennifer Lopez
ReplyDeleteFor the poster who guessed Blu Cantrell...there has been alot of space and energy devoted here to calling out those who are hiding behind anonymity and making spurious, dubious claims. This entire blog seems targeted at being provocative and not much else. It is a damned shame that certain singers who have real talent and have busted thier proverbial asses to get where they are must now be subject to the speculation of sensation-seeking armchair quarterbacks.( sorry 'bout the mixed metaphor..:)
ReplyDelete(As for those singers who don't have any real talent, well, we all seem to know who they are, no need to dwell on that.)
I am the Mother of twice Grammy-nominated R&B singer Blu Cantrell. I suppose the nay-sayers could always claim this post is a hoax, too; at the end of the day, I really don't care. Just suffice it to say, some of what the alleged entertainment atty claims ain't so far off base, insofar as the dirt the industry is capable of doing, and certain someones' hard-earned money/fame going to people other than themselves...happens every day in the recording industry and will likely continue.
As far as my daughter being named as the no-talent front-er, you're kidding, right ? My girl has been singing her pipes out since she was a tiny little thing in elementary school, plenty of witnesses for that through the years.I was a professional jazz singer for over 20 yrs; she was at rehearsals & backstage with me for many years, comes by it honest.Maybe the poster has never had the privilege of being in a club or concert hall where my daughter has sung a cappella for an appreciative crowd, which happened many times during the height of her celebrity.
My daughter nearly starved to death knocking around for years in the Big Apple before she was "discovered", singing anywhere they'd let her...often without accompaniment. She routinely made the tears well in listeners' eyes.
Had it not been for odd jobs she had and the boxes I sent from home filled with food for she & her roommates, there'd have been no Blu Cantrell. What she endured to earn her celebrity is truly the stuff of legends...maybe someday the story will really get told. She was discovered, by the way, by Tricky Stewart ( of Red Zone) in Atlanta. She was in Atlanta because her younger sister, one of my other daughters, was lying in a coma in ICU after having been in a near-fatal car crash. I had all my kids come there ( we are from New England) because my comatose daughter was not expected to survive. Tiffany ( known to you as Blu) was accosted by a man in our hotel lobby, who said she looked like she was in show business. That man was Tricky Stewart and the rest is history. She came to me and said "Mom, this man wants me to go to studio and record, he's a producer, but I don't want to leave you and my sister". I told her to go, that if it was a real opportunity, it was perhaps the only good thing that could come out of this terrible tragedy, perhaps a blessing in disguise. She was signed to Red Zone shortly after and began recording her freshman CD.
For some nitwit poster with nothing better to do than drag somebodys' name through the mud of this ludicrous blog to even insinuate my daughter didn't do her own singing is an intolerable insult to me and my family and what we have all been through. One of my girls is permanently brain injured, will never be right again in life, and the only good thing that came from those horrific, life-altering months in Atlanta is my daughter Tiffany finally getting the career-making break she so richly deserved. It is a blessing that came to us under the shroud of a tragedy, and damn you for casting even a hint of an aspersion on my daughters' talent.
I had to find out about this post, this blog, from a young relative in another state who keeps up with show biz stuff. She emailed me the hyperlink so I could see for myself. Myself and my family have tolerated a great deal of nonsense and aggravation, a lot of invasion into our familys' right to privacy, relative to my daughters' celebrity, and I have always tried to be gracious about it. This time, though, enough is enough.
If you don't know for a fact who the alleged attorney is alluding to ( and by the way, what a sterling individual HE is, huh ??!?) then go back to your Rice Krispie treats and Sponge-Bob and mind your own damned business.
MOST Sincerely,
Susi Franco
Blu
ReplyDeleteWHO?
Seriously.
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Sorry
Blu's
parent.
IT'S JANET JACKSON PEOPLE!!!
ReplyDeleteI've said it before and I'll say it again...It's Janet Jackson!!
ReplyDeletei think is Samantha Mumba (sp?)...it has to be. i think she's had 2 cds out and toured internationally. what do you guys think?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242747/
ReplyDeleteYou're creative.
You know who I think it is. I think it is Jessica and Ashelee Simpson distant cousin. O.J. Simpson
ReplyDeleteWow!!! This one is really hard because I believe that he fudged the years to throw us off and some of the other information. Maybe we should look back a little further, say 1995-1999, and see who came out in that timeframe.
ReplyDeleteCould it be Fiona Apple? http://www.fiona-apple.com/
ReplyDeletei confess.
ReplyDeleteit was me.
-Christina
wondering if it's Janet Jackson: she had 2 albums that didn't do very well before control blew up. For Control and Rythm Nation and Janet, her voice was Harder more solid. Since then her voice has become much softer and sweet. Also there was that manager who was with her for 9 yrs or so (secretly married) she did pepsi commercials, and has also had over 30 top 40 hits to her credit.
ReplyDeleteI've heard Beyonce live and a capella and she sounds great. This guy is a horrible writer and I doubt very seriously that he is a lawyer. Could the story be true? Sure, there are a lot of talentless people selling millions of albums.
ReplyDeleteI think this is a hoax, but for those of you trying to figure out the timeline, the first CD probably came out in 2002. For all the work done on the CD per the blog, it would have taken that long to get it finalized and marketed. If this isn't a hoax then I bet an acquaintance of someone in the lawyer's office, e.g. a paralegal, wrote the piece. And, the reason for the expose is sheer spite.
ReplyDeleteSooo it's been a long time since this was posted, but my friend and I were sitting here contemplating all the different singers that this could possibly be, and we've narrowed it down to a few.
ReplyDeleteSince ENT Lawyer says that this would totally rock the music world, it has to be someone that everyone knows, not everyone has to like MV's music, but pretty much all of us know who she is. This means that people like Ciara, Alicia Keys, etc. are most likely not MV. Instead it needs to be someone very well known, who has crossed many genres and who appears to be extremely talented. The singers we chose were Celine Dion (because her singing voice lacks the strong accent that her speaking voice has, and she hasn't released any new material. Plus, she has been performing old material in Vegas which could easily be from the music that S recorded for MV's touring) , Shania Twain (because she was huge and broke the country barrier, even appearing on MTV, and her second CD did much better than her first. Also, she suddenly dropped off the radar and hasn't been heard from since), and Janet Jackson (because she's always been extremely secretive, like being married for a long time without anyone knowing, and her father seems like the type to be apart of something like this). Since in later posts ENT says that some people have guessed who MV is, we decided that it can't be Celine Dion, since no one has guessed her. We also decided that it probably isn't Janet Jackson, since on her recently released album, her voice sounds pretty much the same has her past ones. That left us thinking that it must be Shania Twain. She was huge, has released at least three albums, and won awards. So why did she suddenly just disappear? Kind of fits the part about deciding that she no longer wanted to be apart of everything that was going on...The only part that bothers me, is that I don't see Shania acting all high and mighty when meeting S, but then again, I've been wrong about a lot of other celebrities...
U LEFT US DEAD WITH THIS ONE EL. WHAT, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYMORE INFO ON THIS? COME ON MAN. GIVE US SOME MORE INFO
ReplyDeletewhat about Paula Abdul (if we are saying it's a possibility the years were fudged to protect the identity)?
ReplyDeleteGranted, I wouldn't cry if Paula Abdul was a "fake".... BUT, she had 6 #1 hits and is a judge on a singing contest so if she was a fake it would have a significant amount of repercussions in the industry.
Also, interesting to note, that she refuses to sing anytime someone puts a mic near her on American Idol....
what if it were paula abdul? well, yvette marine was the name of the woman who claimed she'd sung lead vocals on some of paula abdul's songs. she sued abdul in court. does it fit the BI? maybe, maybe not.
ReplyDeletesee http://www.paula-abdul.net/html/article_33.html
kinda makes sense that abdul would need pre-recorded vocals if she toured. her strength is/was as a dancer--no way she could sing and dance at the same time.
I hate to upset u all but the truth is the singer is Beyonce'.
ReplyDeleteThe girl who is singing had done a demo for " my boo" the song with alicia keys and usher before alicia recorded her part and she sounds JUST like B. People who heard it all thought it was her. THERE VOICES CANNOT BE TOLD APART!
Beyonce can sing really well but she was lucky enough to find someone who sounds like her so she doesnt have to do the work. I dont know what this girl looks like but i will say her voice is amazing and she she should be paid well.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CEFDD1038F931A25756C0A967958260
ReplyDeletearticle about the lawsuit Yvette Marine vs. Paula Abdul in 1991.
If ent fudged the dates/timing of parts of the story, it fits... if this is the hard blind item Ent is referring to that was recently solved. It would implicate Abdul, V. Jeffrey Smith, Peter Lord, and Virgin Records. Most articles about Abdul refer to her as a mediocre singer whose reputation was damaged by this lawsuit, but enough time has passed and the general public seems to have forgotten. Interesting, though, that Yvette Marie lost the case in court.
Last person I'd have thought it to be but.....
ReplyDeleteChristina Ag's "co-writer" & producer is Guy Roche. And the original blog makes a point of calling the offending man Guy instead of the guy
Would shake the industry to the core if it was her.....
and MV was on her own for future recordings and tours..
ReplyDeletethis indicates that there might be a difference in her voice. think about it, S's voice is known to millions of MV's fans, it is thought of as MV's voice. then when S gets her big pay off, Mv is left to do her own recordings. surely, if shes that bad to have to hire someone else in the first place, it would be majorly noticable. just a thought.
very few of these guesses would actually rock any one from my 11 year old daughter to my 75 year old grandfather... think more like barbra streisand
ReplyDeleteI thought this B.I was going to be updated on july 4????
ReplyDeleteAfter what happened on her tour just now could it be LAUREN HILL?? Apparently she sounds absolutley CRAP and is on the verge of a breakdown.
I can't believe I'm going to say this because I absolutely love her - but I think that MV might be Madonna. Her husband's name is Guy and so is her business partner's (Guy Oseary - who was too young to be "the guy" but still). Also - she sounds TOTALLY different from Borderline and Dress you up to Ray of Light and Secret to now. I have seen her multiple timeson each tour - I have seen her 13 times in concert - and I have always seen her lipsynching. Only as of the last concert dd she seem like she was actually singing. I even remember her singing on her Girlie Show tour - the one that was first on HBO - and she seemed like she was singing live, and then she flubbed one of the lines and I knew she was lipsynching. I think Madonna is one of those rare few who would truly rock the industry if this came out to be her.
ReplyDeleteJust a side note - as far as Janet Jackson goes - I remember seeing her a little girl when she was on Different Strokes and thinking wow, she is such a talented girl. She sang on oneor two episodes. I am positive that MV cannot be her. She was very talented even back then.
I really think this could be Madonna, or possibly Mimi. Now, I'm not so convinced of Mimi... but it's a guess.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I think if people are still guessing on this BI that we should think more about timeless icons of music, not just recent stars like Christina, Britney, ect.
I saw Alicia Keys sing live on an AOL session, and she was definitely singing on her own. She was talking, improvising, the whole thing. And her voice isn't so great, that it would be another person using her as a front.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know who actually sang for Milli and Vanilli? Why didn't they just make their own record?
ReplyDeleteThe actual singers for Rob Pilatus and Fab Morvan (who could actually sing, so that was a wasted talent because Farian decided if Pilatus couldn't sing, Morvan wasn't better) were:
Charles Shaw (among other things, he was paid $6,000 to do the "rap" on "Girl You Know It's True" -- he was the first singer to talk and was paid $1,500,000 to shut up a year before the actual scandal broke out when the producer admitted it)
Brad Howell
John Davis
Jodie and Linda Rocco (did all the female vocals)
Ray Horton (more backup)
Gina Mohammed (see above)
For a brief time, Farian did promote them as "The Real Milli Vanilli" and they put out two albums (the appropriately-named "The Moment of Truth" under that name, and then "Sexy Eyes" as 'Try 'n' B' in the early Nineties when the Milli name lost credibility).
I think the person is Beyonce Knowles and I think the "ghost singer" is Kristal Smith aka Lyndriette.
ReplyDeleteI wondered why Beyonce sounded so different in person than she does on her CD's.
ReplyDeleteThis could also be the Mariah Carey/Melonie Daniels issue. For years Melonie had been promised her own recording career because she had a stronger voice, but was relagated to singing "background" because industry types considered her to be hideous. It was rumored that she sang many of Mariah's high notes and pre-recorded a lot of Mariah's live vocals. I'm not sure how true it is, but just like this post, it's been around for ages.
ReplyDeleteIn terms of singers sounding different from their recordings, 99% of singers sound different due to accoustics among other interferences.
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ReplyDeleteI hate to upset u all but the truth is the singer is Beyonce'.
The girl who is singing had done a demo for " my boo" the song with alicia keys and usher before alicia recorded her part and she sounds JUST like B. People who heard it all thought it was her. THERE VOICES CANNOT BE TOLD APART!
Beyonce can sing really well but she was lucky enough to find someone who sounds like her so she doesnt have to do the work. I dont know what this girl looks like but i will say her voice is amazing and she she should be paid well.
As much as I'm not a fan of Beyonce, your theory is way off for two reasons:
1) Beyonce came from a group and this post discusses an artist who's always been a soloist.
2) "Crazy in Love" was released in 2003, not 2000 or 2001 as discussed the orginal post.
Not to mention, her second and thrid albums did not do as well as her first and the post says that the singer's albums have sold progressively better.
Plus Matthew is way too controlling when it comes to her career and this person "S" would have been found in a cement ditch if they had tried anything.
Nowhere in that article does it state that the person was always a soloist. The fact that some industry hit person comes on to steer people in another direction tells me that it is Beyonce because anyone who has been on a black message board in the past 5 years knows that's how Beyonce's clean up people do. She has an abortion, clean it up; she steals someone's song, clean it up; she steals someone's moves, clean it up; she steals someone's VOICE, clean it up. And BTW, Melonie sounds NOTHING like Mariah.
ReplyDeleteJust so you know Enty, this is the very first blind item I ever read while visiting your site for the first time! This one hold's a special place in my <3 :P Keep up the awesome work...you give us housewives something to look forward to!!
ReplyDeleteMyah Marie: On this girls myspace page is a song called Animal. have a listen.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.myspace.com/myahmusic/music
Also, from her facebook page is a link to an interview regarding her connection to Britney Spears.
http://www.facebook.com/myahmarieofficial
http://www.madbritneylove.com/post/3956155210/exclusive-myah-marie-interview
since ive discovered this story, ive thought long and hard on who it could be. if this story is true, i feel like it would be janet jackson because of who her family is. enty made it sound like this person has a huge huge impact in the music industry and although janet jackson doesnt really do that on her own, her brother is/was michael jackson. could it be that all of them are fake....? and joe jackson could be 'the guy'?.....idk, dont really know what else to think.
ReplyDeleteTo begin with, there's a LOT of "tricks" used in recording. I have worked in some of the biggest studios in NYC & seen some things. A good "snare hit" will be "copied & pasted" over & over for the rest of a song nowadays. Listen to the drums on a Beatles recording & hearing the different dynamic with each hit compared to drums today which are perfect and sound the same every time. Now imagine what can be done with vocals.
ReplyDeleteLawyers don't "write" their own stuff at work. They have assistants AND during a busy time hire temps to be "processors" who type at insane speeds to type up their work. It's good pay $30/hour but only temp work for about 2 weeks.
Finally, I don't doubt that ALL the people that have been brought up as guesses didn't have some "help" on an album etc, but Im confident that this person is Alicia Keys. While I know she did unplugged & other events, it's not saying the famous singer can't sing at all, it's saying they don't sing on their records. Live, Alicia sounds at best "ok", but on record she's belting the heck out of her songs.
I would like to add that Ashanti as terrible as she is, actually sang the back up track for j-lO 'S HIT "I'm Real" & has admitted so many times in interviews. She was bitter about it because it's pretty obvious that's her voice, but she was a nobody.
I have met Ashanti and her terrible family several times and they are the worse people imaginable. A family from Long Island that got lucky and think their shit doesn't stink. The fat younger sister has the worst attitude as if she's actually done anything in her life!!!
Anyway, I believe it's Alicia Keys as her voice was super deep when she first came out, but her vocals were way different. Plus , Alicia was in a relationship with a female during her time in NYC, my friend lived down the block from Alicia in the Lower East Side & I remember Alicia well. Does everyone forget how BUTCH Alicia looked when she first came out on the scene?
Anyway, it's Alicia Keys. peace